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Old 10-09-2014, 12:36 PM  
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We know what it's going to cost to keep him. Question is he worth the money? Has this defense missed him?

I think there's a noticeable difference without Berry against the run. The pass defense looks similar though.

For a team in cap trouble I don't think Berry is a must re-sign guy.
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Old 10-09-2014, 01:39 PM   #31
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Yeah, Abdullah is solid but not berry.

He does however allow you to put berry in Ron Parker's spot. You know, the spot that had it been berry probably picks Kaep off for a pick 6
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Old 10-09-2014, 01:39 PM   #32
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I understand your concern about his weight, but i don't think we'll see an equal trade off. I think Berry brings far too much around the LoS and that there is no way we would see an equal trade. As it is, FS doesn't seem to be the gigantic hole that it use to be, so how much MORE production will we actually get, and do we even need more production at that position?



The interception numbers won't be there simply because if he's doing his job, the QB won't throw the ball.



Also, the loss of DJ makes Berry's play around the LoS that much more valuable. Our run defense is just plain awful at the moment simply because we're missing our two best ILB's.



Essentially, what we'd be doing is taking our most versatile and best players around the LoS and moving him as far away from the LoS as possible. That just doesn't sound like a good idea to me anymore.

Legitimate concerns, for sure.

I think a switch would be pertinent but I don't think you could go wrong. Berry is a Swiss Army knife. He'll excel wherever we put him, seriously. His coverage woes from early on are far overblown on this site. He's excellent against the run and rushing the passer while his man coverage skills are actually above average to pretty good. What remains to be seen is whether he still has the instincts to play zone in the deep middle.
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Old 10-09-2014, 01:40 PM   #33
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Think about it, if he's playing single high safety most of the time, then he's not going to be involved and around most plays that occur. We're not going to see him making hte plays that we're so use to seeing because he simply won't be there to make those plays.

Do we REALLY want that?

On top of that, imma have to listen to some of you morAns talk about how he doesn't have it anymore etc.
We all want to keep Berry, but you don't pay box SS 13 million a year. Imo.
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Just put berry in the best spot to make plays on a game by game basis
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Abdullah is basically as good if not better than Berry and we haven't missed Berry at all.
Uhhh....
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This is the part where Green Bay let's quality vets walk and keeps on drafting.
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Just put berry in the best spot to make plays on a game by game basis
I like this.

And i think that's what we'll see when he gets back. He's probably going to be doing a lot of both, as will Abdullah.
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This is the part where Green Bay let's quality vets walk and keeps on drafting.
Except that they actually keep their best.

You don't draft all pros just to replace them.

Green Bay lets players walk when it's TIME to let them walk.
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I like this.

And i think that's what we'll see when he gets back. He's probably going to be doing a lot of both, as will Abdullah.
I think it would be a great situation to have berry Abdullah, Parker and that other dude (Coleman I think) at safety.

Lotta athleticism
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Remind me again which safety came up big in the playoffs last year and which one got owned by Coby goddamn Fleener.
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Instincts won't make him super man. Sure, im sure he can run from the back end of the D up to the front 7, but by the time he gets there the back will have already gained a few yards, negating the effectivness that Berry would've had if he were around the LoS.

He's an all pro player, not superman. It's not realistic to expect him to come from the deepest position on the D and still make the same kind of plays.
The run defense is hardly the result of Eric Berry being out. It's more the fact that we're missing two starting ILBs.

Abdullah has been very consistent both in coverage and in run support when asked to play near the LOS. He is rarely ever out of place and is a pretty good play maker in his own right around the LOS.

The team would really be better off with Berry playing deeper because, while Abdullah, Parker, and Coleman have been ok back there, Berry has the speed and athleticism to make some of the plays that they just can't reach (throw to Lloyd where Coleman was too late to help out Smith for example).
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Remind me again which safety came up big in the playoffs last year and which one got owned by Coby goddamn Fleener.
I'm a fan of Abdullah. Huge fan. Don't get me wrong. But unless this weird ankle injury of Berry's is the beginning stages of Ebola, I'm taking him over Abdullah every time.
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Remind me again which safety came up big in the playoffs last year and which one got owned by Coby goddamn Fleener.
5 catches for 46 yards 1 td. Oh man, he got clowned so so hard.
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Remind me again which safety came up big in the playoffs last year and which one got owned by Coby goddamn Fleener.
And which one couldn't beat out Lewis for the starting job last year?
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