Chiefs With Eric Berry in the game in the 2nd half do we still lose? - Page 4

DTVietnam · 12-14-2018, 10:06 PM

I cant embed tweets..someone help a newb out but why does our team looked so confused and a guy who hasnt played in 2 years need to tell them what the f*** they are doing

https://twitter.com/nate_bukaty/stat...72915659051008

**srvy** · 12-15-2018, 11:14 AM

Our corners cannot run and stay with their receivers without holding and we had no Answer for Williams he just outmuscles and jumps us not to mention their best TE out still.
All the directing and calling the defense wont makeup for lack of talent beside that should be coached and made understood by now.

Is it possible that they saw Berry struggling in the first half and realized he still isn't ready pulled him and are protecting him with the play count story. Just seems to me there are better ways to manage play count than letting him go all out a half then pull. If they believe he was better than what we have right now wouldn't you pick his plays in key moments and spread them out?

Mecca · 12-15-2018, 11:16 AM

Veach really shit the bed in the offseason eh?

Sure-Oz · 12-15-2018, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

That is hilarious. It's week 15 and these assholes still don't know what their assignment is or where to even line up.

Not only are our DBs small, slow and weak- they're also ****ing stupid. Great.

They'll also not be starters next season after we draft 5 db's

Sure-Oz · 12-15-2018, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

When Berry hasn't played in 2 years and he was basically throwing a temper tantrum at a dude to get him to listen before a play....most of these guys should just be released.

Yeah they are mostly scrap heap players

Mecca · 12-15-2018, 11:21 AM

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They'll also not be starters next season after we draft 5 db's

Yea, cause Bob Sutton has a history of doing that doesn't he?

That's why Jordan Lucas showed more than Parker, Sorenson or Murray and guess who is back to not playing now...

ThaVirus · 12-15-2018, 11:23 AM

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They'll also not be starters next season after we draft 5 db's

Scandrick, Nelson, Murray, Sorenson, Parker and Ragland are all replacement level players.

We can't realistically unload all of those guys in one offseason.

Mecca · 12-15-2018, 11:25 AM

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Scandrick, Nelson, Murray, Sorenson, Parker and Ragland are all replacement level players.

We can't realistically unload all of those guys in one offseason.

Well you could because you could replace them with no bodies who'd be no worse.

Of those guys the only one that is concerning is Sorensen cause he costs money to release. After that we get into the main issue that Hitchens is a scrub and an expensive one.

Chief Northman · 12-15-2018, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Scandrick, Nelson, Murray, Sorenson, Parker and Ragland are all replacement level players.

We can't realistically unload all of those guys in one offseason.

Sure you can.

Mecca · 12-15-2018, 11:38 AM

I don't hold out hope though, Veach basically had a disaster offseason.

njchiefs · 12-15-2018, 12:39 PM

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Yup. And that wasn't a "must win" game for us. The plan was always to work him back up to being a full time player. Chiefs are still in the best position to win the AFC West (I'm telling ya, Chargers lose to the Ravens next Saturday), and get a bye.

Is next week a “must win” game? How many quarters do we get to see him play next week? If it had been the Super Bowl would we have seen him play the whole game even if if it were risking injury to him? Or would they have brought him back in? If so then his health only matters to the team when it suits their overall interest. Somehow this logic doesn’t make sense. He’s either ready to play or he’s not.

njchiefs · 12-15-2018, 12:44 PM

And whose to say that letting him play one half as a “plan” is the ideal way to ease him in, in the most important game of the season thus far? How about asking the guy, how do you feel? Do you think you can go back in?

Flying High D · 12-15-2018, 12:52 PM

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And whose to say that letting him play one half as a “plan” is the ideal way to ease him in, in the most important game of the season thus far? How about asking the guy, how do you feel? Do you think you can go back in?

Wouldn’t it be cool to have a player throw his stocking cap on the ground and stomp it. Throw his helmet on and be yelling, “Abort the plan, Plan B is now being implemented.”

Kman34 · 12-15-2018, 01:01 PM

I swear I read Rivers lips before the 2pt conversion say “just run it.. it will work”..to Williams... I think it was the same play that they used to score the TD... Sad.. I think Berry would have stopped one of those plays...

Buckweath · 12-15-2018, 01:06 PM

Earl Thomas would have helped so much.

I am not sure the decision not to trade for a safety at the trade deadline or sign one in the offseason was the right one.

NJChiefsFan · 12-15-2018, 02:43 PM

I remember a specific play where Berry was screaming at 2 players to get in the right spot and they finally did. I don't know what the actual difference would have be but it certainly would not have hurt.

I don't focus on just one guy during the game but it sure seemed at first look like Berry made an impact in the first half.

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DTVietnam Veteran Join Date: May 2018 Casino cash: $9520400	With Eric Berry in the game in the 2nd half do we still lose? I cant embed tweets..someone help a newb out but why does our team looked so confused and a guy who hasnt played in 2 years need to tell them what the f*** they are doing https://twitter.com/nate_bukaty/stat...72915659051008
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12-15-2018, 11:14 AM	#46
srvy Fight, build, win! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: KC Casino cash: $1711250	Our corners cannot run and stay with their receivers without holding and we had no Answer for Williams he just outmuscles and jumps us not to mention their best TE out still. All the directing and calling the defense wont makeup for lack of talent beside that should be coached and made understood by now. Is it possible that they saw Berry struggling in the first half and realized he still isn't ready pulled him and are protecting him with the play count story. Just seems to me there are better ways to manage play count than letting him go all out a half then pull. If they believe he was better than what we have right now wouldn't you pick his plays in key moments and spread them out? __________________ "The victim stance is a powerful one. The victim is always morally right, neither responsible nor accountable, and forever entitled to sympathy."
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12-15-2018, 11:16 AM	#47
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2657050	Veach really shit the bed in the offseason eh?
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njchiefs Starter Join Date: Sep 2013 Casino cash: $8044900	And whose to say that letting him play one half as a “plan” is the ideal way to ease him in, in the most important game of the season thus far? How about asking the guy, how do you feel? Do you think you can go back in?
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Kman34 My Mamma Says Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Glass Cage Of Emotion Casino cash: $2011786 VARSITY	I swear I read Rivers lips before the 2pt conversion say “just run it.. it will work”..to Williams... I think it was the same play that they used to score the TD... Sad.. I think Berry would have stopped one of those plays... Last edited by Kman34; 12-15-2018 at 02:17 PM..
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Buckweath Veteran Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Quebec, Canada Casino cash: $9994975	Earl Thomas would have helped so much. I am not sure the decision not to trade for a safety at the trade deadline or sign one in the offseason was the right one.
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12-15-2018, 02:43 PM	#60
NJChiefsFan I've Made a Huge Mistake Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: NJ Casino cash: $5770423	I remember a specific play where Berry was screaming at 2 players to get in the right spot and they finally did. I don't know what the actual difference would have be but it certainly would not have hurt. I don't focus on just one guy during the game but it sure seemed at first look like Berry made an impact in the first half.
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