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They come here and the government has some understanding and talks with them, has ships and bodies, and knows something about what they are. 25 16.23%
They come here, and the government investigates sightings and keeps secrets and has evidence but they don't know much. 31 20.13%
They exist and they come here but no one (including government) has any solid physical evidence or shocking secrets. 11 7.14%
They exist and are intelligent and could come here but they don't. 18 11.69%
Intelligent life exists in some form but can't come here because of distance/technology challenges. 54 35.06%
Something exists out there somewhere but it isn't intelligent. 8 5.19%
There are no life forms anywhere else. 7 4.55%
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Old 05-30-2015, 07:46 PM  
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What is your stance on aliens?
I am curious to see where everyone stands on this. Asking about a stance on UFOs could be a different topic with different options so feel to give your thoughts on that as well.
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Old 02-15-2018, 04:47 PM   #556
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There is plenty of evidence that’s up for debate on authenticity, what it represents, etc. and ultimately each person has to decide to what extent they believe or disbelieve it. I have no problems that.

The silliest argument of all though is limiting an alien species to our understanding of life and the universe. Just because it would take us an unavailable amount of time and resources doesn’t mean that’s the case for potential aliens.

Nobody has any idea what the world will look like from a technological point of view 10,000 years from now. Now try to imagine a civilization a million years beyond us. Outright dismissing it as a possibility they could get here is much too far in the opposite direction of being a unquestioning believer for me to consider you as being open minded enough on this subject.
What would be so cool would be to discover a planet that was at the beginning of time as we know it. Dinosaurs and shit.

first thing I'd do is travel there and go ahead and buy stock in Microsoft,amazon, facebook and apple.
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Old 02-15-2018, 04:48 PM   #557
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There is plenty of evidence that’s up for debate on authenticity, what it represents, etc. and ultimately each person has to decide to what extent they believe or disbelieve it. I have no problems that.

The silliest argument of all though is limiting an alien species to our understanding of life and the universe. Just because it would take us an unavailable amount of time and resources doesn’t mean that’s the case for potential aliens.

Nobody has any idea what the world will look like from a technological point of view 10,000 years from now. Now try to imagine a civilization a million years beyond us. Outright dismissing it as a possibility they could get here is much too far in the opposite direction of being a unquestioning believer for me to consider you as being open minded enough on this subject.
Well said... too many people want to view this subject through the lens of our current understanding of physics, and the universe in general
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Old 02-15-2018, 05:36 PM   #558
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Old 02-15-2018, 05:41 PM   #559
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Old 02-15-2018, 06:22 PM   #560
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yes because the only possible explanation for this video is that beings from another civilization came here in 2004, not only one of them but a 'fleet' of them....they spent who knows how many resources to travel from somewhere either from another galaxy or from pretty far away in this one....

and they come here and either

1) try to remain secret , but get 'caught' by a camera from our primitive technology

or

2) don't try and remain secret and just stay too high up in the atmosphere doing cartwheels and ****ign around and never bother making an announcement to man-kind or broadcasting their message to us...

this makes so much sense

"just look at the video"

LOL
Advanced earthling tech + bio engineering = UFO's/"Aliens".
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Old 02-16-2018, 08:52 PM   #561
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Old 02-17-2018, 09:40 AM   #562
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Old 02-18-2018, 08:03 AM   #563
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4) yes I assume there would be a logical reason for them coming here, and breaking #1 and coming here in 2004 to do some flips, break rule #1 makes no sense. so yes, if this advanced civilization has no logic and is willing to break the prime directive then sure...that might be them on the video you posted...
What if their prime directive isn't based off a 60's sci-fi show but spreading and protecting life?

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5) yes i assume travel speed is based on technology. what else what it would be based on?
Agreed.

One needs to consider that our current space technology/travel isn't much better than our ability to travel over land in the 1800's. We could do it but not over any real distance in any reasonable amount of time...
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:05 AM   #564
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If a species could travel the vast interstellar distances in even a somewhat reasonable pace, there would be absolutely no reason for them to contact us or even visit. Anything they could need would be available in far greater and easier to harvest quantities in asteroids.
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:08 AM   #565
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If a species could travel the vast interstellar distances in even a somewhat reasonable pace, there would be absolutely no reason for them to contact us or even visit. Anything they could need would be available in far greater and easier to harvest quantities in asteroids.
This is like saying there's no reason for people to paddle in boats across the atlantic or pacific oceans.

But they did.

Technology later progressed to the point our long and dangerous journey became mundane...
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:11 AM   #566
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I dont know how anyone could definitively say they dont exist.
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I dont know how anyone could definitively say they dont exist.
You can't.

I'd argue it's one step below the "God" argument.

It's easier to prove Aliens than God but we can't prove either right now...
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This is like saying there's no reason for people to paddle in boats across the atlantic or pacific oceans.

But they did.

Technology later progressed to the point our long and dangerous journey became mundane...
There was actually a very good reason why people set off across the Atlantic. They wanted a quicker and safer way to Indonesia and India and they wanted to cut the Muslims out of the spice trade to Europe. You could go around Africa but it was rather dangerous and slow.

Of course first they found not much but then Exploring more the Spanish found a whole ton of gold and that they could grow several cash crops really easy: cotton and sugar. This set off a rush of Europeans to the new world each looking for gold and then finding other crops that grew well either native or transplanted like tobacco, cacao, or vanilla.

In addition foods like tomatoes, potatoes, and chili peppers revolutionized cooking in the old world in some instances completely replacing a similar crop from Asia.
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There was actually a very good reason why people set off across the Atlantic.
Resources.

Once we get better at travel and less violent the world will have an abundance of resources at its disposal...
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