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TEDx Speaker: Pedophilia Is A Natural Sexual Orientation

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TEDx Speaker: Pedophilia Is An Unchangeable Orientation


Controversy erupted recently over a TEDx talk featuring a German medical student who exclaimed that "pedophilia is an unchangeable sexual orientation, just like … heterosexuality."

The student, Mirjam Heine, gave the talk at the University of Würtzberg in Germany this past May under the title "Why our perception of pedophilia has to change." During her talk, Heine said that people need to recognize that pedophilia is a natural force.

"Anyone could be born a pedophile," she told the audience, citing it as just an "unchangeable sexual orientation just like, for example, heterosexuality."

Heine then goes on to differentiate between pedophilia — the sexual attraction to children — and child molestation, which she said should never be accepted.

"The difference between pedophilia and other sexual orientations is that living out this sexual orientation will end in a disaster," she said.

Quite strangely, the student then cites "studies" showing that 20 to 30% of all child molesters are pedophiles.

On the sheer insanity of this, LifeSiteNews has more:

At times Heine’s ideas were confused. She said heterosexuality and pedophilia were both orientations, while saying pedophilia can be "heterosexual," "homosexual," and "bi-sexual." She intimated that a non-pedophile could sexually abuse a child, but also included within her definition of pedophiles people attracted, to a lesser extent, to adults. And although she seems to think people are “born” pedophiles, she also said pedophilia has biological, social, and psychological factors.

For Heine, pedophilia is not something that someone actually does but something that someone would like to do, as a sexual preference that they would "live out freely," if only it weren’t contrary to leading "an upright life."

Heine then goes on to turn sexual molestation into a societal problem by blaming it on the social isolation of pedophiles by making them fearful to express their inclinations.

"For example, they can’t tell their children they can’t go to the beach because children in swimsuits may be there as well," Heine said. "They can never be completely frank with someone else."

"We shouldn’t increase the sufferings of pedophiles by excluding them, by blaming and mocking them," Heine said. "By doing that, WE increase their isolation and WE increase the chance of child sexual abuse.”

"Just like pedophiles, we are not responsible for our feelings. We do not choose them. .. but it is our responsibility to ... overcome our negative feelings about pedophiles and to treat them with the same respect we treat other people with."

Though Heine acknowledges the evil in sexual molestation, she poses a dangerous idea here regarding the "acceptance" of pedophilia as a natural, unchangeable orientation. First off, if pedophilia were indeed "natural," it makes no sense to condemn the expression of it as wrong so long as the two parties are consenting. Once the inclination becomes accepted as "normal," we're only decades away from man-boy, man-girl and vice-versa relationships from storming the public square demanding their civil right to "love" each other.

But that's a side issue.

What's really insidious about her idea is that it would discourage actual pedophiles from seeking much-needed psychiatric treatment. The bottom line: pedophiles have a twisted sexual disorder of which they must be cured. There should be no acceptance of it. Sure, compassion must always be shown toward those who wish to improve their psychiatric state, especially when many of those people are victims of pedophiles themselves, but there should be no conflation between compassion and acceptance.

Following the video's posting to YouTube, Heine's talk faced immense backlash, forcing the organizers of TEDx to remove the video and issued an apologetic statement.

"After reviewing the talk, we believe it cites research in ways that are open to serious misinterpretation. This led some viewers to interpret the talk as an argument in favor of an illegal and harmful practice," they wrote. "Furthermore, after contacting the organizer to understand why it had been taken down, we learned that the speaker herself requested it be removed from the internet because she had serious concerns about her own safety in its wake."

"Our policy is and always has been to remove speakers’ talks when they request we do so. That is why we support this TEDx organizer’s decision to respect this speaker’s wishes and keep the talk offline."



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Old 07-25-2018, 01:18 PM   #46
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Because public support for pedophilia isn't going to be swayed by one idiot claiming it's normal. It will never be normalized. Worry over this is dumb.


it didn't even take a week.
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Old 07-25-2018, 01:51 PM   #47
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it didn't even take a week.
What are you talking about?
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Old 07-25-2018, 02:31 PM   #48
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Dan Harmon was fired by cartoon network after it was discovered that he once made a short film simulating the rape of an infant.

CN released a statement that said the film was not what the company was about. they dont endorse Dan's views on children etc. etc.

fans demanded that he be hired back because Cartoon Network was aware of Harmon's views. They even paid for the show, Rick and Morty, based on the pilot that featured jokes about coercing a minor for sex.



CN hired Dan Harmon back a few days later
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Old 07-25-2018, 03:02 PM   #49
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I don't agree with him.

First of all I don't think we know a whole lot about the psychology of how sexuality develops. The fact that victims of pedophiles are OVERWHELMINGLY more likely to become pedophiles themselves indicates there's something environmental about it.

This is actually also true about male homosexuals. Boys who are molested by men grow up to be homosexual at a very disproportionate rate.

Also true about lesbians... frequently themselves the victims of a sexual assault while they were children.

If you are a pedophile and are attracted to children while simultaneously opposed to abusing children... do what any decent person would do. Seclude yourself from society. Sorry. I Have no other solution. Avoid any temptation and stay the **** away from our kids.

I have to say the direction this thread took was impressive. One guy at TedX gives a stupid lecture (which is basically 90% of Tedx... anyone can get a Tedx talk) and in come the vast conspiracies that leftists core goal is to sexualize children.

Confirmation bias is a thing guys. You might be over-reacting JUST A LITTLE.
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Old 07-25-2018, 03:06 PM   #50
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Dan Harmon was fired by cartoon network after it was discovered that he once made a short film simulating the rape of an infant.

CN released a statement that said the film was not what the company was about. they dont endorse Dan's views on children etc. etc.

fans demanded that he be hired back because Cartoon Network was aware of Harmon's views. They even paid for the show, Rick and Morty, based on the pilot that featured jokes about coercing a minor for sex.



CN hired Dan Harmon back a few days later
Harmon is an edge lord comedy writer.

He's not the leader of some pedophile ring.

Geezus you guys, you're regular SJW's.
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Harmon is an edge lord comedy writer.

He's not the leader of some pedophile ring.

Geezus you guys, you're regular SJW's.
that isn't the video he got in trouble for. thats the video his fans cite to defend him.

go and watch the video before you say its edgy humor. and I never accused Harmon of anything. that wasn't my point. Fish said no one would even attempt to normalize pedophilia in the mainstream. I brought up this fiasco involving Harmon to show that there are people who will defend this.
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that isn't the video he got in trouble for. thats the video his fans cite to defend him.

go and watch the video before you say its edgy humor. and I never accused Harmon of anything. that wasn't my point. Fish said no one would even attempt to normalize pedophilia in the mainstream. I brought up this fiasco involving Harmon to show that there are people who will defend this.
I'm talking about the baby doll rape video. It was an attempt at very dark humor. Of course it was. I find pedophile jokes the one type of joke I cannot ****ing stand. I don't find them funny. I find them disgusting and I question why anyone would make a such a joke... but people make all kinds of inappropriate jokes that I DO laugh at... so what?

That's not people normalizing it. It's a joke.

When people make rape jokes, they're not normalizing rape.

When people make jokes about racism, they're not normalizing racism.

When people make jokes about kicking dead babies, they're not normalizing kicking dead babies.

This is pure SJW logic man. I'm sorry, but it is. It's the same arguments they use. He was trying to be edgy. Comedy is about taking risks.

If we say Chapelle was normalizing everything he joked about, then Dave is an absolute supporter of racism and oppression. It's nonsense.

Stop it. Just stop. Please, I don't want to live in a world where every failed attempt at humor is treated as if it's a malicious attempt to make the subject matter acceptable. It's nonsense when SJW's say it, and it's nonsense in the case of Harmon.
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yeah, moral outrages are shitty. I wish there was a way to convince leftists to abandon social justice mobbery. I don't know what that way could possibly be, though.
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it didn't even take a week.
It doesn't take much to get people on a bandwagon these days. All you really need to do for a lot of people is threaten that they won't be considered cool if they don't accept it.

Things that not long ago were only done in dark alleys are done while strutting down main street, today, for the same reason.

If people don't think this postmodern age of so-called enlightenment could lead to where other cultures passing this point on sexuality have led, that's pretty foolish.
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Dan Harmon was fired by cartoon network after it was discovered that he once made a short film simulating the rape of an infant.

CN released a statement that said the film was not what the company was about. they dont endorse Dan's views on children etc. etc.

fans demanded that he be hired back because Cartoon Network was aware of Harmon's views. They even paid for the show, Rick and Morty, based on the pilot that featured jokes about coercing a minor for sex.



CN hired Dan Harmon back a few days later
That's not normalization of pedophilia. Don't be dumb.
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it blurs the lines.
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Dan's little sketch was more of a failed joke than a subliminal insight.
It failed because, even though the guideposts were there, it wasn't clear enough what he was satirizing.
He wasn't normalizing pedophilia, he was pointing out how corrosive a show like Dexter, that could be read to be 'normalizing' or even romanticizing serial killing, is when you think about its message in another context

The actual clip in question

https://www.bitchute.com/video/xnQIwtDhxKQ6/

We can discuss how effectively he did so, but at it's base his message was 'so you think your antiheroes [Tony Soprano, Dexter, Walter White, etc] are edgy and cool? Well, let's take that storytelling milieu to its logical conclusion.'

MoF, the 'protagonist' of Daryl justifies his baby raping through the narrative that, if he didn't rape them as babies, they would grow up to be serial killers. So he was ultimately saving lives.

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Harmon can only go to that well so many times before I know where he gets his water. repetition is normalizing in itself.

and what is the takeaway for Dan? What about the public? a playground-tier putdown tweet got Roseanne canned. but let's provide a platform for comedians to push the envelope further... further than simulated rape using a doll.

I used to be a big fan of Opie and Anthony. I've laughed at my share of Uncle Paul jokes. creepy uncles and molestations were frequent topics for jokes. The point of it all was to cause as much cringing as possible. I thought it was pretty funny until I learned of thier (2 of the hosts) dating habits by following them on social media. I dont know if they are active pedophiles but I do know that they are opportunistic predators. I've had a real change in perspective on the media I consume.
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That's actually the censored version. The uncensored version makes that baby rape sketch look like an episode of the brady bunch. I'm very rarely offended by any jokes, but the uncensored version is basically animated child porn...
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