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Old 04-13-2018, 09:09 PM  
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Cohen made it to Prague as indicated in dossier

McClatchy is reporting that Muller has proof that Cohen did make it to Prague after all to meet with Russians.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/poli...208870264.html

The Justice Department special counsel has evidence that Donald Trump’s personal lawyer and confidant, Michael Cohen, secretly made a late-summer trip to Prague during the 2016 presidential campaign, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

Confirmation of the trip would lend credence to a retired British spy’s report that Cohen strategized there with a powerful Kremlin figure about Russian meddling in the U.S. election.

It would also be one of the most significant developments thus far in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation of whether the Trump campaign and the Kremlin worked together to help Trump win the White House. Undercutting Trump’s repeated pronouncements that “there is no evidence of collusion,” it also could ratchet up the stakes if the president tries, as he has intimated he might for months, to order Mueller’s firing.
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Old 04-14-2018, 09:27 AM   #61
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I think they would have considered the exchange of information and speech related to that information protected under the first amendment, even if the speech involved Russians or foreigners in general. It's one of our country's foundational principles.
I suppose we could ask them what they thought of Benedict Arnold and if his chats with the British were protected by the 1st.
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Old 04-14-2018, 09:48 AM   #62
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I suppose we could ask them what they thought of Benedict Arnold and if his chats with the British were protected by the 1st.
Does this mean that when you talk about collaboration you're talking specifically about what Benedict Arnold did? Because that's a pretty narrow sliver of what "collaboration" can mean, which brings us right back to my criticism of your tenacious vagueness.
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Old 04-14-2018, 09:53 AM   #63
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Does this mean that when you talk about collaboration you're talking specifically about what Benedict Arnold did? Because that's a pretty narrow sliver of what "collaboration" can mean, which brings us right back to my criticism of your tenacious vagueness.
I was being a smart ass, actually. Well, maybe half a smart ass. I just don't think that the Founders would have been fine with what you say they would have been. We'll never really know, so...
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Old 04-14-2018, 09:53 AM   #64
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Does this mean that when you talk about collaboration you're talking specifically about what Benedict Arnold did? Because that's a pretty narrow sliver of what "collaboration" can mean, which brings us right back to my criticism of your tenacious vagueness.


But surely you would concede that 'it doesn't look good,' no?

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Old 04-14-2018, 12:04 PM   #65
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Perhaps, like Manafort and Gates, Cohen has multiple passports.
The idea was alleged, because, he's has dual citizenship with Israel. So seems to me you don't like Jews.

If Cohen was seen in LA with son, family, coaches at a college his son wanted to attend on those dates, which he said in his testimony to congress, that should be enough.
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Old 04-14-2018, 12:16 PM   #66
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Old 04-14-2018, 12:22 PM   #67
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The idea was alleged, because, he's has dual citizenship with Israel. So seems to me you don't like Jews.

If Cohen was seen in LA with son, family, coaches at a college his son wanted to attend on those dates, which he said in his testimony to congress, that should be enough.
You'd be surprised. I worked with a guy that hated star trek. It was because of Roddeberry's Mother was Jewish. I asked if he was raised Jewish. The guy basically responded by telling me that it didn't matter how he was raised. It only mattered that one of his parents was of Jewish Ancestry, and that was enough to ruin someone
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Old 04-14-2018, 01:12 PM   #68
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At this point it’s pretty clear that some in the media are just making stuff up.

I’ve read Super Mario reviews with more veracity than some of the reporting on Trump.
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Old 04-14-2018, 01:19 PM   #69
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So far it appears that there are four reasons the Russia-Trump narrative took hold:

1. The dossier (which everyone should know by now was created by his primary political opponent);

2. His political opponents banging the drum with no evidence to support the hyperbolic conclusions;

3. The media hyperventilating about point number 2;

4. Trump droning on and on about better relations with Russia and making stupid “moral equivalency” statements about the US and Russia (while also peppering in comments about disbanding NATO as a negotiating tactic).

Point 4 made the first three believable and sellable even if they ultimately prove not to be true.
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I thought I remember reading a while ago that it was a different Michael Cohen that was in Prague.



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It's apparently a fact that Mueller has evidence that Cohen went to Prague, as the dossier stated he did, no?
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I'll bet the different MC stole the originals passport and used it.

Yea, that's the ticket.


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The idea was alleged, because, he's has dual citizenship with Israel. So seems to me you don't like Jews.

If Cohen was seen in LA with son, family, coaches at a college his son wanted to attend on those dates, which he said in his testimony to congress, that should be enough.
So, he traveled to Prague on his Israeli passport?
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that should be enough.
No, you really sisn't just write that....

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So far it appears that there are four reasons the Russia-Trump narrative took hold:

1. The dossier (which everyone should know by now was created by his primary political opponent);

2. His political opponents banging the drum with no evidence to support the hyperbolic conclusions;

3. The media hyperventilating about point number 2;

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Point 4 made the first three believable and sellable even if they ultimately prove not to be true.
The dossier "was created" by his political opponent?
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Was all that Cohen showed was his US passport's cover as proof he didn't go to Prague?
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Was all that Cohen showed was his US passport's cover as proof he didn't go to Prague?
Certainly proof enough for a lot of people in here.
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