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Old 04-13-2018, 09:09 PM  
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Cohen made it to Prague as indicated in dossier

McClatchy is reporting that Muller has proof that Cohen did make it to Prague after all to meet with Russians.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/poli...208870264.html

The Justice Department special counsel has evidence that Donald Trump’s personal lawyer and confidant, Michael Cohen, secretly made a late-summer trip to Prague during the 2016 presidential campaign, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

Confirmation of the trip would lend credence to a retired British spy’s report that Cohen strategized there with a powerful Kremlin figure about Russian meddling in the U.S. election.

It would also be one of the most significant developments thus far in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation of whether the Trump campaign and the Kremlin worked together to help Trump win the White House. Undercutting Trump’s repeated pronouncements that “there is no evidence of collusion,” it also could ratchet up the stakes if the president tries, as he has intimated he might for months, to order Mueller’s firing.
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Old 04-14-2018, 08:32 AM   #46
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It's in the first amendment:



People have the right to get together, to talk, and to report on what they've heard.
I have a feeling that the Founders might disagree with you on that one, but, meh.
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Old 04-14-2018, 08:33 AM   #47
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Cohen has more than one alibi for where he was on those dates, like his son and coaches etc.


I thought I remember reading a while ago that it was a different Michael Cohen that was in Prague.



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It's apparently a fact that Mueller has evidence that Cohen went to Prague, as the dossier stated he did, no?
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Old 04-14-2018, 08:34 AM   #49
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I thought I remember reading a while ago that it was a different Michael Cohen that was in Prague.



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I'll bet the different MC stole the originals passport and used it.

Yea, that's the ticket.
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Old 04-14-2018, 08:36 AM   #50
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I thought I remember reading a while ago that it was a different Michael Cohen that was in Prague.



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But, he was never in Prague...


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Old 04-14-2018, 08:37 AM   #51
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I'll bet the different MC stole the originals passport and used it.

Yea, that's the ticket.
Perhaps, like Manafort and Gates, Cohen has multiple passports.
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Old 04-14-2018, 08:39 AM   #52
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It's apparently a fact that Mueller has evidence that Cohen went to Prague, as the dossier stated he did, no?
'Apparently' 'leaked' 'reports' by 'sources' 'allegedly' 'familiar.'

You know you are on solid ground when every word you rely on requires 'quotes'
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Old 04-14-2018, 08:41 AM   #53
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'Apparently' 'leaked' 'reports' by 'sources' 'allegedly' 'familiar.'

You know you are on solid ground when every word you rely on requires 'quotes'
I've not seen the evidence mentioned in the OP, so sure, I'll say it's apparent.
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Old 04-14-2018, 08:43 AM   #54
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It’s funny but to this point, it all begins and ends with a Brit involvement in a U.S. election and his funded Dossier. It remains the source of both sides basis for argument. Left: Trump and Russians equal stolen election and illegitimate President. Everything he does is connected to his “collusion” or covering it up. Right: Dem funded report using foreigners that aren’t Russian as basis for multiple federal agencies, press, and secret courts to unfairly investigate any aspect of the President or his associates. This confirms the depth and breadth of the “swamp.”
To review the core 6 dossier points. We are now onto number 6:
1) Trump had cooperated with Russian authorities for years.
A core claim of the dossier is that Russia “had been feeding Trump and his team valuable intelligence on his opponents,” including Clinton, for “several years” before 2016, and that in exchange, Trump’s team fed the Kremlin intelligence on Russian oligarchs and their families “for at least eight years.”
2) Trump is vulnerable to Russian blackmail on sexual matters.
The dossier states that during a trip to the Moscow Ritz-Carlton, Trump hired prostitutes to “perform a ‘golden showers’ (urination) show in front of him”, “defiling” the presidential suite bed in which the Obamas had previously slept, with the implication being that Russian intelligence taped this and that it was one of several forms of “kompromat” the Russians have
3) There was a “well-developed conspiracy of cooperation” between Trump and Russia.
Steele describes a Trump-Russia “conspiracy,” managed by Paul Manafort, with Carter Page serving as intermediary until Manafort’s firing in August 2016, after which point Trump’s lawyer Michael Cohen played an increasingly large role.
4) Trump’s team knew and approved of Russian plans to deliver emails to WikiLeaks, and offered them policy concessions in exchange.
The dossier claims that Trump and his campaign team had “full knowledge and support” of Russia’s leak of the DNC emails to WikiLeaks, and that in return, Trump’s team “had agreed to sideline Russian intervention in Ukraine as a campaign issue.”
5) Carter Page played a key role in the conspiracy.
The dossier says that according to an “ethnic Russian associate” of Trump’s, Carter Page had “conceived and promoted” the idea that the DNC emails to WikiLeaks should be leaked during the Democratic convention, “to swing supporters of Bernie Sanders away from Hilary Clinton.
6) Michael Cohen played a key role in the conspiracy.
The latest big “ah ha” that validates either sides position The dossier says that after Paul Manafort was fired, Cohen traveled to a European Union country (later reports claim it was the Czech Republic) in late August or early September to meet with Russian officials, and that the meeting took place under the cover of a Russian NGO, Rossotrudnichestvo.
One topic of this meeting was “coverup and damage limitation” around Manafort’s Ukrainian work and efforts to “prevent the full details of Trump’s relationship with Russia being exposed.” According to the dossier, after August, Cohen continued to manage Trump’s relations with Russia, but after this point, contacts were made to Russia’s “trusted agents of influence.”
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Perhaps, like Manafort and Gates, Cohen has multiple passports.
Not familiar with what it takes to get more than one but that wouldn't surprise me.
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Old 04-14-2018, 09:13 AM   #56
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I have a feeling that the Founders might disagree with you on that one, but, meh.
Not likely.
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It's apparently a fact that Mueller has evidence that Cohen went to Prague, as the dossier stated he did, no?
A fact based on unnamed sources in an ongoing story that's had no shortage of false reports based on "officials familiar" or "people close to the situation"? Usually you're a stickler for these kinds of details, but I guess this time it's different.
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Not likely.
You think that they would have approved of the Trump campaign collaborating with members of a hostile, foreign government? And that that speech is protected by the 1st?
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A fact based on unnamed sources in an ongoing story that's had no shortage of false reports based on "officials familiar" or "people close to the situation"? Usually you're a stickler for these kinds of details, but I guess this time it's different.
That's why I said apparently.
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You think that they would have approved of the Trump campaign collaborating with members of a hostile, foreign government? And that that speech is protected by the 1st?
I think they would have considered the exchange of information and speech related to that information protected under the first amendment, even if the speech involved Russians or foreigners in general. It's one of our country's foundational principles.
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