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Old 04-09-2018, 11:55 AM  
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Khalil Mack possible hold out?

Not showing up to Raiders workouts that started today.

They are voluntary...but he just turned down a 100m offer from Oakland a few days ago and this is the first activities with Gruden.
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Old 04-09-2018, 02:29 PM   #16
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He'd be stupid not to hold out.

Luckily, at least we hope, the Raiders have squandered the cheap QB and cheap pass rusher years and are now going to have to start hitting on draft picks to fill holes instead of FA's.

They're gonna have to pay Cooper soon as well.
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Old 04-09-2018, 02:31 PM   #17
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They should try to trade Cooper.

He’s overrated and will want overrated type money.
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Old 04-09-2018, 02:36 PM   #18
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Mack will get 125-130m on a 6 year deal if he wants Von $
Can't say anything negative about Mack but don't think he could carry a team the way miller did. I think he would get similar money just because of inflation.
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Old 04-09-2018, 02:36 PM   #19
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Meh, I'd wait and see how things go with Gruden at the helm first.
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Old 04-09-2018, 02:39 PM   #20
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Can't say anything negative about Mack but don't think he could carry a team the way miller did. I think he would get similar money just because of inflation.
130 is exactly Von Miller’s deal with the % of increase to the cap.
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Old 04-09-2018, 02:39 PM   #21
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Meh, I'd wait and see how things go with Gruden at the helm first.
You are absolutely right. You are thinking of most logical thing for him to do I am thinking of worst case scenario for oakland because that's soothing.
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Old 04-09-2018, 02:41 PM   #22
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They need to pay Khalil this year though, can't go in to next season with both of them needing paid.

Just the nature of the beast.

And Khalil is a badass. But that d is so bad. I dunno.

If someone offered a kings haul for him, I'd thinkn about it.
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Old 04-09-2018, 04:46 PM   #23
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Can't say anything negative about Mack but don't think he could carry a team the way miller did. I think he would get similar money just because of inflation.
Miller never carried that team.
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Old 04-09-2018, 04:51 PM   #24
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Miller never carried that team.
I think miller did more to win their sb than forehead.
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Old 04-09-2018, 05:05 PM   #25
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Can't say anything negative about Mack but don't think he could carry a team the way miller did.
With all due respect here, Miller disappears too much for me. Mack is far more consistent than Miller IMHO. I would take Mack over Miller in a heartbeat hypothetically speaking. Mack's motor never misses whereas Miller has always had issues of sputtering at the worst times. Heckuva talent no doubt but he has chronic ADD with his play.
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Old 04-09-2018, 05:07 PM   #26
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I think miller did more to win their sb than forehead.
Oh no doubt and that was a game where he was hitting on all cylinders. Wade,Von and the D won that SB. Kubiak and Forehead didn't that is for sure.
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Old 04-09-2018, 05:17 PM   #27
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Players hardly ever hold out. Its just posturing at this stage. They will sign him and it will be to a huge deal. Carr and Mack were good picks, but they squandered the drafts during their rookie deals. So now they have to pay the piper and have little else around them. Gruden is an upgrade over Del Rio though.
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Gruden is an upgrade over Del Rio though.
I liked having del rio there seemed like he would be just mediocre enough to keep his job but be easily handled.
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They overpaid on Carr so hopefully, they will with Mack as well. He is not worth 130 million but, the Faders are dumb enough to give it to him.
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