Misc Conceal Carry weapon choices - Page 8

Holladay · 01-03-2017, 06:50 PM

Probably a re-post, didn't see it after a quick search.

I am buy no means a gun expert but know my way around them (ex-military)

My wife is seriously looking to CC. That thought alone shocked me. She is quite against guns. She is German and with all the issues Germany has now and stuff here in the states, wants to pursue this privilege. I will as well.

Another thought is what is the best way to figure out which states allow. I have surfed the web and it is a bit confusing. She will be house sitting in SC for a month. Thus a long trip by herself through many states. As I understand, KY will prove the hardest state.

I have taken her out in our back 40 to practice. I have a 9mm CZ 75 that I bought while stationed in Germany. It is similar to the Beretta 9mm. She is a natural. The practice and repetition is the key as we all know. It is to big for CC. She will be carrying in her purse..eer er "hand bag" ( I got corrected from a female fashionista).

We are on a budget and not into an elite weapon. Something that goes bang and scares the would be bad guy. I was hoping for less then $400.

We have tried a few different types. Revolver vs Semi. Revolver is simpler but limited ammo. Semi is harder to operate but has more "bangs".

My parents have a Makarov 9x18. I thought it was junk, but find out it is quite decent. It is a Walther PPK variant. Cheap ~$300. I read a review about women and hand guns. The author stated that a point is the strength/size of women's hands. Thus semi is not a good option unless she is a masseuse. I giggled, because she is. Her hands are as big as mine which are medium/large guys paws. She has had a little problem pulling the slide back and on another old (S&W Defender) revolver the trigger squeeze.

I will use the Defender, not necessarily CC, in my car. If I can find ammo for it. That is another problem. The CZ stays at home.

Thoughts?

Radar Chief · 01-06-2017, 10:56 AM

Since I've got her taken car of I'm looking for a CCW myself. I've got a Colt 1991A1 but it's a full frame .45 and not very concealed friendly. But I'm still a fan of the .45 ACP for personal defense, so I've been looking at this Springfield XD Mod 2.

Chief_For_Life58 · 01-06-2017, 11:52 AM

cc is about having something to shoot to kill within 20 feet. any open fire you get into past that you are spraying and praying. I carry a Ruger LCP 380 everyday. it fits in my pocket and its small enough I dont even feel it. About the same size as my iphone. I would reccommend this as a CC over most anything else. I used to carry a SW MP40 Shield but it was still too bulky to comfortably carry.

**Iowanian** · 01-06-2017, 02:45 PM

I guess it all depends what you want and what you want to spend.
I've allegedly had several choices.

LCP or LC9 are ok, but I'm not the biggest fan of the fit in my hand.

Sig p238 is a .380 but it's basically a mini 1911 frame. I liked it quite a bit.

Glock 42 and 43 I like and I'm not a Glock fan as a rule.

I don't think you would be wrong to look at the S-W wheel guns either. a .38 might be ok for what your needs are and they're pretty simple, point and click.
I used to avoid revolvers because I thought the hammer would catch, but maybe it's not a big concern and there is a hammerless option.

Chief_For_Life58 · 01-06-2017, 03:11 PM

Yeah if you are a big guy with big hands the lcp will probably be too small. I put a clip extender on it and new rubber grip. It fits just a touch small on my hand but it is good.

Radar Chief · 01-06-2017, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

I don't think you would be wrong to look at the S-W wheel guns either. a .38 might be ok for what your needs are and they're pretty simple, point and click.
I used to avoid revolvers because I thought the hammer would catch, but maybe it's not a big concern and there is a hammerless option.

There are some impressively hot loads for the .38 Special +P that get real close to a .357 Magnum ballistics.
Snagging the hammer while drawing it is a consideration but Lil'Momma wanted a hammer. Actually she wanted a single action revolver, I talked her into the double action by telling her it is a single action except for when she really needs it to be more.

Otter · 01-06-2017, 04:36 PM

Springfield XD Sub Compact XD .40 3"

http://www.springfield-armory.com/pr...ompact-40-cal/

I could just never get into the Glock feel. Great guns but just don't like the feel of them when shooting as much as the Springfield.

**notorious** · 01-06-2017, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief

Got Lil'Momma this for Christmas.

S&W .38 Special +P

When I went looking I had a Ruger of the same type in mind planning to put some pink grips on it for her but this Smith came equipped with Crimson Trace grips (built in laser that activates with a momentary switch on the front of the grip so that when you wrap your fingers around the handle the laser comes on). Figured I can't make self defense much simpler than that.

This was my first CC gun.

Love it. Going to get th .357 version soon.

DenverChief · 01-06-2017, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter

Springfield XD Sub Compact XD .40 3"

http://www.springfield-armory.com/pr...ompact-40-cal/

I could just never get into the Glock feel. Great guns but just don't like the feel of them when shooting as much as the Springfield.

I feel the exact same way about springfields. Just don't like how they feel give me a Glock or S&W M&P any day.

Tombstone RJ · 01-06-2017, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dmahurin

Get her a 9mm. Do not get a .40 or .45. Get critical defense ammo and a 9mm will expand to the same size and penetration depth of a .45. The m&p shield or a slringfield xd are great guns. MO and KS do not require a permit or license to concealed carry. The laws on where you can and cant carry are important to know.

This. Or get her a subcompact .380. No way would I get her a compact or subcompact .40 or .45. If you are on a budget, KelTec makes good small semi autos.

Simply Red · 01-06-2017, 10:30 PM

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Holladay · 01-07-2017, 01:03 AM

Had a family discussion, hopefully it will be a "family" event. Both kids are teenagers and don't really wanna go.

Again, taking notes. The range has a bunch of guns that they can try.

In the end, what is better the spending time with the family whacking crap.

DenverChief · 01-09-2017, 05:55 AM

Hilarious and informative video on the Judge

Holladay · 01-11-2017, 01:28 AM

Nice, that is the one that she heard about. I am thinking might be too much for my mom's hand. When a young man says "that has a kick", told mom no.

I got the clips that were missing from my Dads 9 mm Makarov and some 9mm Makarov ammo, with the red (pinkish) hand grips. Cool.

Now I can see if this will work for my wife. She slid the slide back tonight easily, and thinking this will work for her.

Our trip to get the family adventure CC license fell apart for last Sunday, but hope to do it in March to include my Mom and Dad.

I will looking be at the past notes for a CC for my Mom (small hands, 76 yrs old). Lots of variables.

Thanks again CP

tmax63 · 01-11-2017, 07:06 AM

For an elderly lady I'd suggest a 22LR revolver so that 1. she doesn't have to rack a slide and 2.little/no recoil. I'm sure your mom is the exception but a lot of ladies in that age group don't have the grip strength they used to. Working in a Pharmacy I hand out a lot of easy-open caps for pill bottles for many people, men included, starting younger than her by quite a bit. Arthritis and various other ailments start to rob us of many things when we hit the 5th, 6th,7th decades of our life.

Beef Supreme · 01-11-2017, 09:34 AM

Not recommending it for anyone in particular, but I have a Glock 27 that probably has less than 200 rounds through it and would make someone a pretty good deal on it. Not trying to be a salesman or anything.

01-03-2017, 06:50 PM
Holladay Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $2649480	Conceal Carry weapon choices Probably a re-post, didn't see it after a quick search. I am buy no means a gun expert but know my way around them (ex-military) My wife is seriously looking to CC. That thought alone shocked me. She is quite against guns. She is German and with all the issues Germany has now and stuff here in the states, wants to pursue this privilege. I will as well. Another thought is what is the best way to figure out which states allow. I have surfed the web and it is a bit confusing. She will be house sitting in SC for a month. Thus a long trip by herself through many states. As I understand, KY will prove the hardest state. I have taken her out in our back 40 to practice. I have a 9mm CZ 75 that I bought while stationed in Germany. It is similar to the Beretta 9mm. She is a natural. The practice and repetition is the key as we all know. It is to big for CC. She will be carrying in her purse..eer er "hand bag" ( I got corrected from a female fashionista). We are on a budget and not into an elite weapon. Something that goes bang and scares the would be bad guy. I was hoping for less then $400. We have tried a few different types. Revolver vs Semi. Revolver is simpler but limited ammo. Semi is harder to operate but has more "bangs". My parents have a Makarov 9x18. I thought it was junk, but find out it is quite decent. It is a Walther PPK variant. Cheap ~$300. I read a review about women and hand guns. The author stated that a point is the strength/size of women's hands. Thus semi is not a good option unless she is a masseuse. I giggled, because she is. Her hands are as big as mine which are medium/large guys paws. She has had a little problem pulling the slide back and on another old (S&W Defender) revolver the trigger squeeze. I will use the Defender, not necessarily CC, in my car. If I can find ammo for it. That is another problem. The CZ stays at home. Thoughts?
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01-06-2017, 11:52 AM	#107
Chief_For_Life58 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: KC Casino cash: $9925938	cc is about having something to shoot to kill within 20 feet. any open fire you get into past that you are spraying and praying. I carry a Ruger LCP 380 everyday. it fits in my pocket and its small enough I dont even feel it. About the same size as my iphone. I would reccommend this as a CC over most anything else. I used to carry a SW MP40 Shield but it was still too bulky to comfortably carry.
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01-06-2017, 02:45 PM	#108
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $4788454	I guess it all depends what you want and what you want to spend. I've allegedly had several choices. LCP or LC9 are ok, but I'm not the biggest fan of the fit in my hand. Sig p238 is a .380 but it's basically a mini 1911 frame. I liked it quite a bit. Glock 42 and 43 I like and I'm not a Glock fan as a rule. I don't think you would be wrong to look at the S-W wheel guns either. a .38 might be ok for what your needs are and they're pretty simple, point and click. I used to avoid revolvers because I thought the hammer would catch, but maybe it's not a big concern and there is a hammerless option.
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01-06-2017, 03:11 PM	#109
Chief_For_Life58 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: KC Casino cash: $9925938	Yeah if you are a big guy with big hands the lcp will probably be too small. I put a clip extender on it and new rubber grip. It fits just a touch small on my hand but it is good.
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01-07-2017, 01:03 AM	#116
Holladay Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $2649480	Had a family discussion, hopefully it will be a "family" event. Both kids are teenagers and don't really wanna go. Again, taking notes. The range has a bunch of guns that they can try. In the end, what is better the spending time with the family whacking crap.
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01-09-2017, 05:55 AM	#117
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01-11-2017, 01:28 AM	#118
Holladay Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $2649480	Nice, that is the one that she heard about. I am thinking might be too much for my mom's hand. When a young man says "that has a kick", told mom no. I got the clips that were missing from my Dads 9 mm Makarov and some 9mm Makarov ammo, with the red (pinkish) hand grips. Cool. Now I can see if this will work for my wife. She slid the slide back tonight easily, and thinking this will work for her. Our trip to get the family adventure CC license fell apart for last Sunday, but hope to do it in March to include my Mom and Dad. I will looking be at the past notes for a CC for my Mom (small hands, 76 yrs old). Lots of variables. Thanks again CP
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01-11-2017, 07:06 AM	#119
tmax63 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Colorado Casino cash: $3260400	For an elderly lady I'd suggest a 22LR revolver so that 1. she doesn't have to rack a slide and 2.little/no recoil. I'm sure your mom is the exception but a lot of ladies in that age group don't have the grip strength they used to. Working in a Pharmacy I hand out a lot of easy-open caps for pill bottles for many people, men included, starting younger than her by quite a bit. Arthritis and various other ailments start to rob us of many things when we hit the 5th, 6th,7th decades of our life. __________________ An armed member of society is a citizen, an unarmed member is a subject.
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01-11-2017, 09:34 AM	#120
Beef Supreme MVP Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $10019560	Not recommending it for anyone in particular, but I have a Glock 27 that probably has less than 200 rounds through it and would make someone a pretty good deal on it. Not trying to be a salesman or anything.
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