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Old 01-09-2018, 02:24 PM  
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Feinstein releases Fusion GPS founder transcript with Senate Judiciary Committee


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Old 01-11-2018, 12:26 PM   #226
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Old 01-11-2018, 12:27 PM   #227
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They only cite high probability and don’t list any evidence. Just a lot of word salad.

As for the FBI investigation of DNC server, link that they investigated their server?
Spooks are kind of funny about sources and methods. But, again, that report is evidence.

Apologies, I thought you were referring to Clinton's server. My understanding is that the DNC refused to turn their servers over, no?
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Old 01-11-2018, 12:30 PM   #228
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Old 01-11-2018, 12:36 PM   #229
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No we dont. That's long debunked.
Debunked? How and by whom?
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Spooks are kind of funny about sources and methods. But, again, that report is evidence.

Apologies, I thought you were referring to Clinton's server. My understanding is that the DNC refused to turn their servers over, no?
You think a spook wrote that report?

Correct, DNC refused to hand over server to FBI. Isn’t it odd that they are pushing the “hacking, meddling, collusion” angle but never cooperated with the FBI on their investigation of the server?
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Old 01-11-2018, 12:45 PM   #231
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You think a spook wrote that report?

Correct, DNC refused to hand over server to FBI. Isn’t it odd that they are pushing the “hacking, meddling, collusion” angle but never cooperated with the FBI on their investigation of the server?
More likely spooks.

Yes, it is odd.
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Debunked? How and by whom?
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More likely spooks.

Yes, it is odd.
I disagree. Spooks would use more definite language and not the vague nonsense in that “report”. There’s a number of instances, in fact the whole report is “we assess...”.

We assess that Putin ordered to meddle in the election. You think a spook would write that? Interesting. I would think a spook would say, we have definite evidence of communication that Putin ordered to meddle. Unless you think we have zero ability to monitor Putin’s communications.
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Correct, DNC refused to hand over server to FBI. Isn’t it odd that they are pushing the “hacking, meddling, collusion” angle but never cooperated with the FBI on their investigation of the server?
I wonder what pithy one liner LoneIdiot or Cave would use to tap out of answering this.
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I disagree. Spooks would use more definite language and not the vague nonsense in that “report”. There’s a number of instances, in fact the whole report is “we assess...”.

We assess that Putin ordered to meddle in the election. You think a spook would write that? Interesting. I would think a spook would say, we have definite evidence of communication that Putin ordered to meddle. Unless you think we have zero ability to monitor Putin’s communications.
Spooks rarely say such things, because they live in the world of probabilities, not certainty, for the most part.
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You're trying that again? I guess last time wasn't enough... Jesus.
LOL

I can't seem to pull the rug out from you enough to get the point through.
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LOL

I can't seem to pull the rug out from you enough to get the point through.
Okay.

You do realize that all Clapper did was to correct the NYT claim that all 17 agencies agreed, right? He didn't debunk anything other than that.
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Spooks rarely say such things, because they live in the world of probabilities, not certainty, for the most part.
Probability based on evidence, and that can be heavily influenced by pre-existing notions, like Iraq WMDs. Very vague report.

In fact you are aware the NSA had moderate confidence in this report?
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