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Old 09-13-2017, 08:44 AM  
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Civil rights groups threaten to hold KCI support hostage

This whole affair has been a fiasco/money grab from the beginning.

Civil rights and minority business leaders said Tuesday that without binding commitments to hire large numbers of blacks, Latinos and women, they would withhold support for a new KCI terminal in this fall’s election campaign.

The KCI Airport Consortium called on the City Council to place the selection of a terminal builder on hold until it secures a guarantee that 40 percent of subcontracting firms on the project be minority-owned and that an equal proportion of the overall workforce also be minorities.

Edgemoor Infrastructure & Real Estate, the Bethesda, Md., company selected last week by a panel of council members and city staff, was “deficient and problematic” in its plans for minority participation, said attorney Clinton Adams, a member of the group that includes leaders of the Urban League of Greater Kansas City, the NAACP Kansas City Chapter and the Black Chamber of Commerce of Greater Kansas City.

Consortium representatives said they carried no brief for the other firms that competed unsuccessfully for selection, including Burns & McDonnell and AECOM.

They emphasized that no matter who ultimately builds the $1 billion airport project, scheduled to go to voters on Nov. 7, it must be a “transformative” economic venture that creates sustainable wealth for the city’s struggling minority community — perhaps even some African American millionaires.

Without a robust role for minority construction workers, designers and other professionals, they said, the city could expect little help in getting out the vote for the ballot measure.

“I’m not motivated to mobilize an electorate that is not going to benefit in a transformative way,” said Gwendolyn Grant, president and CEO of the Urban League, adding that most of the community she represents “doesn’t give a darn about that airport.”

The consortium is scheduled to present its concerns at a Wednesday morning press conference.

The group’s comments, which came in a Tuesday afternoon meeting with The Star’s editorial board, illustrate the uncertainty that continues to surround the project, which has been beset by accusations of interest conflict and private dealings.

The council is scheduled to vote next week on Edgemoor’s proposal. Approval would authorize the city to begin negotiating a detailed memorandum of understanding with the company.

But the final outcome remains very much in doubt, with Burns & McDonnell and AECOM both continuing to make their case, and council members seeking more information about Edgemoor.

In its proposal to the city, Edgemoor said at least 20 percent of its construction subcontractors would be owned by blacks or Latinos, with 15 percent controlled by women. It promised that 15 percent of its professional services firms would be owned by minorities and 12 percent by women.

The company said the city did not require any commitments about the composition of the workforce.

Edgemoor managing director Geoffrey Stricker said in a phone interview Tuesday that the company had a “tremendous track record” of reaching diversity goals.

“We would welcome the opportunity to sit down with the group to discuss what was in our proposal,” Stricker said.

While the council is not in public session this week, there is significant behind-the-scenes maneuvering. A group of four council members met with Stricker Tuesday in an effort to learn more about the firm, regarded as a surprise winner over Burns & McDonnell and AECOM.

Council members Quinton Lucas and Alissia Canady said they were both favorably impressed with Edgemoor’s explanation of its track record, including that of its parent company, Clark Construction, which said it exceeded 40 percent minority participation in building the National Museum of African American History and Culture in Washington.

“I was very impressed,” said Canady. “They have a strong desire to talk to the community as a whole. They want to be competitive and they want to have a good relationship in Kansas City.”

Canady said she agreed with the KCI consortium that minority participation should be around 40 percent and expressed optimism that an agreement could be struck.

“We’re not that far off and I don’t foresee a problem getting to a place where we’re both comfortable,” she said.

The other council members in the meeting were Katheryn Shields and Teresa Loar, according to Lucas, who added that the session had been cleared by the city attorney’s office and the city’s outside counsel on KCI.

Stricker said that he has a series of meetings with community groups and businesses this week and into next.

“We had a very positive conversation.” he said of the meeting with council members, “and we’re going top continue to introduce ourselves.”

Consortium members expressed concerns about the diversity record of Clarkson Construction, the local construction firm that is aligned with Edgemoor.

“Clarkson has been bad news,” said Adams, a veteran civil rights activist, contending that the poor record began with William E. Clarkson Sr., the company president who passed away last year and continues with his son, Bill Clarkson Jr. “He was bad news and his son is just as bad.” (Speaking ill of the dead?)

The group said its analysis shows that black and Latino businesses represented less than five percent of Clarkson subcontractors on state highway construction and paving jobs.

Clarkson construction manager Steve Kellerman said Tuesday that that comparison of highway work with work that will be performed on the airport is unfair. Kellerman said that while the company has always exceeded federal and state goals on road work, minority firms are hard to come by.

He said that the huge component of “vertical” work that will be done at KCI — parking garages and the terminal itself — will mean more opportunity.

“There is an abundance of opportunities for minority and women-owned businesses,” he said.

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Old 09-13-2017, 12:09 PM   #31
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New, single terminal or trying to rehab the existing two, the costs aren't really that much different.
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Old 09-13-2017, 12:22 PM   #32
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The left wont quit until they have destroyed whats left of KC.

We cant privatize Westport because that would mean thugs couldnt wear saggy jeans, hats, white T's and oh bring guns in to shoot up the entertainment district with.

We cant hire more police despite being needed because we have to use that money to subsidize Sly's business friends.


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Old 09-13-2017, 12:35 PM   #33
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KC isn't a front runner, no, but the airport as it stands now is the disqualifying factor; the lack of public transport is outweighed by the cheaper non-residential real estate (only getting beat by Columbus IIRC) and much more affordable residential prices.

Between repeated water main breaks forcing the deployment of Porta-Johns, electrical issues and birds flying around the cramped gate areas in B, yeah you're right, MCI is quite a functional airport.

As for becoming a hub, that's not going to happen given US geography. O'Hare and Dallas International have the Midwest locked down.
Oh no, Birds!!

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Old 09-13-2017, 12:42 PM   #34
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Everyone (and i do mean everyone) should have absolutely seen this coming.

It was never about a new airport to begin with (and still isn't).
It's the friggn banker at LibertyBank who's loan commission/ origination fee at 4.0% would be $480,000.00 on $1.2B loan
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Old 09-13-2017, 12:44 PM   #35
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Oh no, Birds!!

Tear the ****er down.
The complex is in shit condition utility wise (way to totally gloss over delays due to electrical failure and the inconvenience of losing running water) and it's going to cost just as much to fix it as it does to completely build a new airport.

A lack amenities doesn't matter to KC citizens but there's going to be a point where airlines start scaling back routes into the airport because of it being a miserable place for connecting passengers; that's going to mean worse options for KC travelers in the long run.
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Old 09-13-2017, 12:53 PM   #36
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......because of it being a miserable place for connecting passengers....
Does MCI even have any of those? Unless they are connecting to Fort Scott, Springfield, or someplace like that. I don't think it's nearly as big of a deal as it is being made out to be.
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Oh no, Birds!!

Tear the ****er down.
Go to DEN sometime. There are always birds flying around in there.
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The complex is in shit condition utility wise (way to totally gloss over delays due to electrical failure and the inconvenience of losing running water) and it's going to cost just as much to fix it as it does to completely build a new airport.

A lack amenities doesn't matter to KC citizens but there's going to be a point where airlines start scaling back routes into the airport because of it being a miserable place for connecting passengers; that's going to mean worse options for KC travelers in the long run.
I have been in and out of KCI hundreds of times over the years-never had a problem. My toilet always flushed, never saw a bird flying around inside, or had delays. It is far from a miserable place for travelers, nice art, quiet, decent places to eat, several bars and gift shops, easy to get your luggage, no long lines or walks, easy pull up to load and unload.

What major airport can you get off your plane, get your luggage and walk 20 feet out the door to be picked up, no traffic, no problems like out at KCI? Try sitting on the tarmac in Chicago for three hours trying to disembark and you can't because it is a total cluster, an hour to get your luggage and an hour out of the place.
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Go to DEN sometime. There are always birds flying around in there.
Or how about an hour and half of traffic just trying to get into DFW airport through the Dallas traffic, no parking, a total cluster from start to finish.

They would love to have the easy accessibility of KCI.

Ever been in the LA airport or Atlanta-

Chicago is the worst of the worst imo. We are spoiled having KCI.
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Go to DEN sometime. There are always birds flying around in there.
I was through Denver in May- their traffic problem is out of control. Worst place in Colorado. Oh and **** the Broncos too.
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Yep. The locals (I consider myself somewhat of a local) like KCI because it is convenient and you can get in and out fast but anybody with a layover absolutely hates it especially the bathroom situation. It is beyond embarrassing.

Also the airlines hate it and TSA hates it as well and as long as only the users of the airport are paying for this new terminal I would probably support it.
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I mean I'd ****ing hope a $12/hr staff of laborers could keep a handful of 150 SF, five hole bathrooms clean.
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How many people have layovers at MCI?
have no idea.
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Kansas City International Airport shows up among 50 major infrastructure projects on a national priority list compiled by Donald Trump’s presidential transition team, according to documents obtained by The Star and a sister McClatchy newspaper.

KCI, which is described as a $972 million project leading to 1,000 jobs, is No. 26 on a list titled “Emergency & National Security Projects.”
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Or how about an hour and half of traffic just trying to get into DFW airport through the Dallas traffic, no parking, a total cluster from start to finish.

They would love to have the easy accessibility of KCI.

Ever been in the LA airport or Atlanta-

Chicago is the worst of the worst imo. We are spoiled having KCI.
You have to be talking Ohare, which I agree sucks. Midway is a fantastic airport.

And KCI is a dump, but I do like the ease of going through security, that's about it though.
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And they can't even get the airport name correct.
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