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Old 09-12-2017, 01:29 PM  
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KC Star Editorial Shames Kansas & Missouri Lawmakers

For voting NO on Federal Aid to Hurricane Harvey victims:

Nine U.S. House members from Kansas and Missouri, all Republicans, voted against providing federal funds to help Houston residents recover from Hurricane Harvey. One senator — Jerry Moran of Kansas, also a Republican — joined them.

It’s hard to overstate the anger and shame their constituents should feel about those votes. At a time of great need, our elected representatives turned their backs on our neighbors to make meaningless political points.

And the hypocrisy. Let us count the ways:

▪ Rep. Ron Estes, a Kansas Republican, voted no. His district includes Greensburg, which received at least $40 million in federal aid after a 2007 tornado destroyed the community.

▪ Rep. Billy Long of Missouri voted no. His district includes Joplin, which received $174 million in federal assistance within the first six months after the 2011 tornado there.

▪ Rep. Sam Graves of Missouri voted no. In 2011, following flooding along the Missouri River, Graves begged the White House for help.

“Due to multiple disasters and the scope of existing and expected damage, we truly believe federal assistance is needed,” he wrote.

Reps. Vicky Hartzler and Blaine Luetkemeyer, both of Missouri, signed Graves’ letter. Both voted no last week.

▪ Rep. Kevin Yoder of Kansas voted no. Since 1993, there have been six federal disaster declarations in Johnson County, for flooding, ice storms and a tornado.

▪ Moran voted no. This spring, he asked for “maximum flexibility” from the Agriculture Department, which allocated $6 million for farmers and ranchers who suffered losses from wildfires in western Kansas.

Other indefensible no votes: Rep. Lynn Jenkins of Kansas and Reps. Ann Wagner and Jason Smith, both Missouri Republicans.

Since 2005, the Federal Emergency Management Agency has spent $849 million for public and individual assistance in Missouri following natural disasters. In Kansas, FEMA has spent $910 million. More? According to the Government Accountability Office, Kansas ranked ninth in the nation in federal disaster spending per person between 2004 and 2011 — far ahead of Texas, California and New York. Missouri was 19th.

All of this seemed to matter little to our representatives, who said they were worried because the Harvey relief was attached to a bill temporarily raising the nation’s debt ceiling.

Ridiculous. Emergency relief bills are attached to other measures all the time — some Hurricane Katrina relief was packaged with additional spending for the military, for example.

The debt ceiling vote is a political gesture, a way for members to pontificate while their colleagues actually govern.

And it’s beyond galling for members to claim they actually supported disaster relief, but wanted to use the debt ceiling vote to cut government spending.

Disaster relief — in Houston, Kansas City, Joplin — is additional government spending. It’s no different than spending for a new battleship, or for government programs that help the elderly, the sick, or a kid who wants to eat lunch.

Lawmakers who truly want to reduce the deficit can walk away from tax cuts for the wealthy.

Then, as the bills from Harvey and Irma roll in, they can remember why we spend on disaster relief: Their victims are our neighbors, and they need our help. Someday, we’ll ask for help from them.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/ed...#storylink=cpy
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Old 09-12-2017, 01:30 PM   #2
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Old 09-12-2017, 03:49 PM   #3
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All of this seemed to matter little to our representatives, who said they were worried because the Harvey relief was attached to a bill temporarily raising the nation’s debt ceiling.

Annnnd...there is the problem.
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Old 09-12-2017, 03:57 PM   #4
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Old 09-12-2017, 09:42 PM   #7
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Annnnd...there is the problem.
Chiding politicians for voting against aid I understand. What I can't understand is the accompanying silence regarding politicians holding aid hostage to pork and pet projects.
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Old 09-12-2017, 10:12 PM   #8
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So is raising the debt ceiling pork or a pet project?
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Old 09-13-2017, 12:12 AM   #9
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So is raising the debt ceiling pork or a pet project?
It is wrong no matter which a person deems it. It's akin to holding someone hostage in my book. I will give you what you want, but first, I'm gonna need you to scratch my back over here, wink, wink.

I don't know the details of the plan, but the way the article reads, it screams extortion. If my take is not correct, they need to post an amended article that doesn't try to shame politicians that voted in favor of the American taxpayer.

Again, let me stress I am ok with emergency aid, IF WE CAN AFFORD IT. If we need to raise the debt ceiling, we need to get our spending in order (which needs done regardless)

This is all an emotional ploy I'm figuring. Why not a clean aid bill for hurricane relief? If we need to borrow money for the donation (which is exactly what this is) we can't afford it.

Here is a perfect example of why we need to get our damn spending under control so we can have a couple of bucks available for emergencies/disasters. It's so damn irritating how everybody wants to scream "We are the richest country in the world, we all deserve free this and that!!" Then when poo hits the fan "We need more credit on the credit card dammit!! Don't you people have a heart )

Oh well, it does appear my representative voted no, so my vote was not wasted
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