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Old 03-28-2013, 07:41 PM  
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****Official Let's Break Down Sutton's Defense Thread****
Welp, I figure we should go ahead and start this project early.

Here are a few helpful hints!

1. Sutton has served primarily as a DC/LB for 8 years including this one.
2. He also had a stint as an OC, as well as WR/QB coach in the early 80's and a RB coach for 8 years (Hence his desire to stop the run)
3. He also served as the Ravens DC along with Rex from 06-08

What I believe from this and other data easily obtained, we're going to see an altered version of the 2-gap that we came to know and love under Romeo. Now, there are some slight variatons (such as DEs playing the 4-tech instead of the 5, the use of zone/man blitz philosophies out of base fronts, and the use of fire zones in base fronts).

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Old 03-28-2013, 08:50 PM   #2
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I think people freak out when they hear the word 2-gap. I didn't like the negativity when DeVito was signed.

The difference is that Romeo like to run a pure 2-gap. 2-gap all day long. Sutton's defense is going to mirror Rex Ryan's, in that the 3-4 will be 2-gap, but he's also going to throw a ton of 4-3 looks. So his 5-techniques have to be able to also play a conventional 4-3 tackle.

I like Rex Ryan's defense. I think the defense fell short the past few years because of talent.
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You know who's defense I like? Ray Horton's.


****. Damn Cardinals.
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I'm sure it will suck. Jets fans loathe him.
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I'm sure it will suck. Jets fans loathe him.
Not saying you're right or wrong...

But Jets fans are ****ing idiots.
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Why do you base opinions off fans takes on people?
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Why do you base opinions off fans takes on people?
Jets fans have more intimate knowledge of Bob Sutton than anyone here.

If they hate him, good enough for me.

Not like people were beating down his door to be their DC.

See it as a shit hire, now go climb an AIDS tree.
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I'm sure it will suck. Jets fans loathe him.
How can fans loathe the linebackers coach? I don't know if I'm happy or excited. I do know that it's ridiculous to say it will suck because he didn't run a great defense with a DC/head coach calling the shots, and with below average talent in the front 7.
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I'm sure it will suck. Jets fans loathe him.
Devito seems to be well liked by New York fans and media, yet he's gonna suck too. So, since when do you put stock into what fans think?
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Wonder why Clay isn't parroting them.
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You know who's defense I like? Ray Horton's.


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I'm probably going to be bitter about that shit for a long time.
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I'm probably going to be bitter about that shit for a long time.
It would have made for a killer coaching staff.
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I think people freak out when they hear the word 2-gap. I didn't like the negativity when DeVito was signed.

The difference is that Romeo like to run a pure 2-gap. 2-gap all day long. Sutton's defense is going to mirror Rex Ryan's, in that the 3-4 will be 2-gap, but he's also going to throw a ton of 4-3 looks. So his 5-techniques have to be able to also play a conventional 4-3 tackle.

I like Rex Ryan's defense. I think the defense fell short the past few years because of talent.
One primary difference is that in various alignments (over-ed, over, under) Sutton/Rex utilizes one DE playing 2-gap responsibilities, whilst the other does not. Similar in structure to Kiffin's under principles but different as well.

One thing that does concern me (and I don't know how much of this is Rex or Sutton) is the propensity to utilize 3 safety packages. They work fine if you have a fantastic front 4 and great corner play. I don't know if we're going to see Berry as the Ted as we did in Romeo's 2-3-6 but I wouldn't discount it just yet.
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I'm probably going to be bitter about that shit for a long time.
Ray Horton was one of my top guys, even for head coach.

But I'd like to see where this defense goes. It's a progressive defense. I think people on this board are too stuck on the word 2-gap. It's not the same thing here. This defense is going to bring a lot of pressure and a lot of the Jets' problems can easily be blamed on horrendous pass rushers, a problem the Chiefs don't have.
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It would have made for a killer coaching staff.
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