2018 Free Agents

[Couch-Potato]

Who are you letting walk/cutting/retiring?

http://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2018/...8-free-agents/


Who are you targeting?

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nf...t-tracker?pg=1

[chinaski]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

KC just needs to take it on the chin this draft season. I'm fine with being aggressive and moving but don't make any absurd moves that cost you future picks.

Time to eat your veggies. The pick selections are much better in 2019. That's when you can have your dessert.

Yup. Totally agree.

[Chief Northman]

Suh planning to visit the Rams.

JFC.

[Chief Northman]

Update: Ndamukong Suh tells me he is planning to visit the #Rams. Another rising contender officially in the mix.

— Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) March 19, 2018

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Not sure corner is high on the list with us having 3 guys already there starting this year. Maybe not a pick to get early due to lack of playing time?

You know who I’ve watched that I think would be one of the best fits of anyone in this draft in our defense?

Jessie Bates. Watched that kid today and ****ing love the guy.

Will he be there in the 3rd round?

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by O.city

Next years second would be worth a third this year though, right?

Give it the value of the last pick in round 2. That's as much value as anyone will give it, beings we COULD win the Superbowl and end up picking last in each round.

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Update: Ndamukong Suh tells me he is planning to visit the #Rams. Another rising contender officially in the mix.

— Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) March 19, 2018

Donald & Suh? Jeezus.

[KChiefs1]

Another reason 1st round picks are more valuable.

There is a premium to trade back into the first round

The round of a draft pick in the second-through-seventh rounds doesn’t impact the value, unless dealing with future picks, because the difference between the 64th and 65th overall picks is negligible. There is more value in the 64th pick because it’s earlier, not because it comes in the second round.

First round picks, however, have a special fifth-year option that is not included in the contracts of second round picks, creating an actual difference in value. For this reason, teams can match equivalent values in a trade, but the outside team will have to pay an additional premium of roughly a 5th-6th round pick to get back into the first round.

This premium is not baked into the table because teams that trade within the first round don’t require this premium.

[KChiefs1]

Let’s look at the 2017 Mahomes trade:

The Chiefs traded their 2017 1st round 27th pick, 2017 third-round pick(91st) and their 2018 1st round selection to the Buffalo Bills to move up to No. 10 to select Mahomes.

To make an even trade point-wise it was...

10th = 1300

for

27th = 680
91st = 136
2018 1st rounder = 484 in 2017(41st or 42nd) which was worth 780(22nd) this season.

Buffalo valued the Chiefs 1st rounder in 2018 the same as a mid 2nd round pick, the 41st or 42nd pick.

[KChiefs1]

Interesting read.

https://www.lockedonbrowns.com/brown...t-trade-chart/

Draft Trade Chart
Bill Dow
February 24, 2018


I have created my own draft trade chart using all of the Trades from the 1996-2017 drafts. Let me start by saying this – THERE IS NO ONE TRADE CHART THAT FITS ALL TRADES! The depth of the draft is different each year and thus the value of picks changes from year to year, particularly from round 3 on. Realizing this, I created a draft chart for each year 1996 through 2017 using the same basic parameters – Pick #1 was worth 10,000 and pick #256 was worth 1-5 points.

Which brings me to fact #2 – A SERIES OF ADJACENT PICKS MIGHT BE ASSIGNED THE SAME VALUE IN A GIVEN YEAR BECAUSE TRADES DEFINE THEM THAT WAY. The good news is that those “Flat spots” occur in different places in different years so overall there each pick is valued lower than the preceding pick. Then I simply averaged the value of each pick over the 22 years. In a couple of years the #1 pick was assigned a value greater than 10,000 because of a wild trade (See Eli Manning and Carson Wentz).

In fact the average value of pick #1 is 10,193. So to preserve the relative value of all picks, I multiplied the average value of each pick by 10,000/10,193.

Using the Chart

This chart works slightly differently than others on the net. Let me start with some definitions.

Traded Picks – The highest value pick given up by each team. Also any other swapped picks used to balance out a trade.

Compensation Pick – The additional pick received by the team moving down.

Bonus Pick(s) – Any pick additional to the compensation pick received by the team moving down.

Future Pick – Picks received from future drafts

Now the Rules

To calculate a trade:
1) Add up the values of picks being received by each team.

2) Future picks are valued at the midpoint value of the round one round later per year. So this year a 2019 3rd round pick would be valued at the midpoint between pick 16 and 17 of round 4. If the pick was a 2020 pick, it would be valued at the midpoint between pick 16 and 17 of round 5.

3) Bonus points are valued at their trade chart value plus 100 points (round 1-3) or 50 points (round 4-7). For future draft picks that are also bonus picks, the bonus points are still the same. That is a future 3rd round pick, that is a bonus pick, would earn 100 bonus points.

Now let’s see if I can figure out how to post the chart! I apologize for the small print, but I couldn’t figure out how to post it in landscape orientation. If I figure it out later, I will edit it then.

Sample Trade

Cleveland decides to trade back into the first round giving up #33, #65 and a 2019 Round 3 pick. #33(2784 points) + #65 (946 points) + 2019 R3 (=2018 Round4 259 points) + 100 bonus points for a future Round 3 = 4089

Cleveland receives Pick #20 from Detroit (4085 points).

[aturnis]

I think guys here value corner and safety FAR more than the Chiefs do. We traded away Peters if that tells you something, and made due with Parker for years at safety. A guy nobody else wanted enough to keep us from acquiring him.

I'm not altogether sure they aren't perfectly happy going into next season relying on Amerson and Murray. They might get competent vet help and draft some guys to compete and develop, but they sure don't seem worried about those spots like the fans to.

I think they are far more concerned about Bailey being inconsistent at DE, and the lack of a consistent NT presence and the effect it's having on Jones and the pass rush.

It looks like they are going to press receivers more this year to give Houston and Ford(who they're stuck with) an extra second to get to the QB. No team let the QB get the ball out quicker than the Chiefs last year. Changing that makes a huge difference.

If they move into the first round, it's for D line. I think it'd be Vea. Personally, I think he's much much better than Payne.

[KChiefs1]

This guy was trying to figure out what the Jets would have to give up from 6th to 3rd in January.

http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/201...s_no_3_nf.html

The No. 3 pick holds a point value of 2,200. The Jets' No. 6 pick holds a value of 1,600. So the Jets would need to make up the difference.

Without taking into consideration compensatory draft picks, the rest of the Jets' picks hold the following values:

2nd Round: 520
2nd Round (Seahawks): 400
3rd Round: 240
4th Round: 92
5th Round (Cowboys): 33
6th Round: 25
7th Round (Seahawks): 7.4

If the Jets combined their first-round pick (1,500), one of their second-round picks (400), and a fourth-round pick (92), they'd get to 1,992 points. That's still a 208 point difference.

The Jets would have to include a future draft pick to close the gap -- potentially a second- or third rounder.

Teams will use the same chart to determine the value of future picks. They'll estimate where said team will be selecting, then go from there.

Example: A future Patriots' first-round pick is valued differently than that of the Browns.

Here's what a fair trade could look like for the Jets to move from the No. 6 pick in the draft, to No. 3:

COLTS GET: Jets 2018 1st-round pick (6th overall), 2nd-round pick (50th), 4th round-pick (102nd) | 2019 2nd-round pick [estimated between No. 15 and 20]

JETS GET: Colts' 2017 1st-round pick (3rd)

Here where things get tricky, though: The Jets may not be the only team competing for that draft pick.

The Broncos (5th overall), Cardinals (15th overall), Chargers (17th overall), Bills (21st, 22nd overall) and Jaguars (29th overall) could all be in the market for a quarterback. They too could want to move up. The Jets may offer a fair trade ... but it won't matter if another team offers more.

Teams, occasionally, will bid against each other, and have to give up more for the pick than it's worth. The Jets may have to overpay if they want to ensure they get their guy.

And it's gotten to the point where they may have to.

The Jets need a franchise quarterback. No matter the cost.
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Actual trade:

Jets acquired No. 3 overall pick from Colts for No. 6 overall pick, 37th overall pick, 49th overall pick and their 2019 2nd round pick.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by aturnis

I think guys here value corner and safety FAR more than the Chiefs do. We traded away Peters if that tells you something, and made due with Parker for years at safety. A guy nobody else wanted enough to keep us from acquiring him.

I'm not altogether sure they aren't perfectly happy going into next season relying on Amerson and Murray. They might get competent vet help and draft some guys to compete and develop, but they sure don't seem worried about those spots like the fans to.

I think they are far more concerned about Bailey being inconsistent at DE, and the lack of a consistent NT presence and the effect it's having on Jones and the pass rush.

It looks like they are going to press receivers more this year to give Houston and Ford(who they're stuck with) an extra second to get to the QB. No team let the QB get the ball out quicker than the Chiefs last year. Changing that makes a huge difference.

If they move into the first round, it's for D line. I think it'd be Vea. Personally, I think he's much much better than Payne.

If they aren't bothered about safety and CB then why give Berry that contract and why trade for Fuller when it's been widely reported that there were some other decent deals on the table? The Peters trade is a unique situation Imo where clearly off the field stuff were why he's not a Chief anymore, It couldn't have been about his performances. Veach also expressed an interest in honey badger at his last press conference, so I'm positive that both of those areas will be addressed in due course. If we don't get someone like a Tre Boston, then I see us going after those positions In the draft.

[Mother****erJones]

How the **** can they pay Suh after they pay Donald? Donald is getting QB money.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

How the **** can they pay Suh after they pay Donald? Donald is getting QB money.

And their QB is getting veteran long snapper money. So is their running back and Peters.
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[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by -King-

And their QB is getting veteran long snapper money. So is their running back and Peters.
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It’s gota be a one year deal. This is a good move by them going all in on their rookie QB