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Old 02-11-2018, 09:51 AM  
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Would you trade Justin houston and our 2nd

To the Browns for #4. Houstons cap savings would be 20 mil.
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:55 PM   #91
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Would you trade Justin houston and our 2nd

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...199700089.html

February 12, 2018

When the Chiefs trade Alex Smith to Washington for cornerback Kendall Fuller and a third-round pick in this yearís draft, they will save $15.6 million in salary-cap space.

The deal wonít be done until the first day of the new league year, which begins at 3 p.m. on March 14.

Will the Chiefs look at other cost-cutting measures, such as releasing players? USA Todayís Steven Ruiz thinks itís possible. He ranked the top 25 NFL stars who could be cut during the offseason, and two Chiefs are on the list.

1. Justin Houston, OLB Chiefs ($15 million)

Houston has struggled to stay on the field and his production has slipped as a result. With the Chiefs looking to get younger on defense, Houston will have a hard time sticking around. He can still be a Pro Bowl level player if he can stay healthy.

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Old 02-13-2018, 12:38 AM   #92
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February 12, 2018

When the Chiefs trade Alex Smith to Washington for cornerback Kendall Fuller and a third-round pick in this yearís draft, they will save $15.6 million in salary-cap space.

The deal wonít be done until the first day of the new league year, which begins at 3 p.m. on March 14.

Will the Chiefs look at other cost-cutting measures, such as releasing players? USA Todayís Steven Ruiz thinks itís possible. He ranked the top 25 NFL stars who could be cut during the offseason, and two Chiefs are on the list.

1. Justin Houston, OLB Chiefs ($15 million)

Houston has struggled to stay on the field and his production has slipped as a result. With the Chiefs looking to get younger on defense, Houston will have a hard time sticking around. He can still be a Pro Bowl level player if he can stay healthy.
0% chance we cut Houston this offseason.
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Old 02-13-2018, 01:32 AM   #93
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I know Hog Farmer is trying to Demonpenz us all, but I still want to bring this up:

Who cares? If Mahomes goes down, I have zero reason to watch this year's Chiefs anyway. May as well take the top 5 pick in 2019 as a consolation prize.
I love you (you know that) but I don't think this is the case - I think Hoglet is looking at cap freedom here, and that was his agenda in this enigmatic thread.
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Old 02-13-2018, 01:51 AM   #94
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0% chance we cut Houston this offseason.
You're probably correct....but I'd argue that the $20 million that KC is paying him is for the pre-injury, 22 sack version of Houston. That kind of money is reserved for "elite" players that take over games or shine in big moments...he's done that exactly once vs. Denver's terrible o-line. He graded out at #15 in PFF. Which is still good...but not someone irreplaceable.

$20 million buys you 2-3 very good to great FA players....if the Chiefs can move him, they should. IMO. In Dorsey's defense...nobody saw Parker inadvertently ruining his chance to be one of the greats.

Think of trading (dumping) Houston for Tyrann Mathieu/Sherman/ Talib AND Muhammad Wilkerson? Would you do it? That is strictly from a financial angle...Shit, a Sherman/Mathieu/Berry/Fuller/Peters back end would be amazing...

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Old 02-13-2018, 02:43 AM   #95
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Old 02-13-2018, 04:14 AM   #96
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Thing is what are you going to do with $20m just over pay on somebody else probably.
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Old 02-13-2018, 06:21 AM   #97
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We will be moving on from two long time Chiefs. DJ and Hali. This is not the year to send Houston packing. Next season i would most likely trade him out of conference. Cutting him puts him on a division rival team most likely and that would be a mistake.
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We will be moving on from two long time Chiefs. DJ and Hali. This is not the year to send Houston packing. Next season i would most likely trade him out of conference. Cutting him puts him on a division rival team most likely and that would be a mistake.
I would say put him in a position where he is not the teams best pass rusher, run defender and put in coverage so much. Get pieces around him.

Let him focus on rushing the passer
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You're probably correct....but I'd argue that the $20 million that KC is paying him is for the pre-injury, 22 sack version of Houston. That kind of money is reserved for "elite" players that take over games or shine in big moments...he's done that exactly once vs. Denver's terrible o-line. He graded out at #15 in PFF. Which is still good...but not someone irreplaceable.

$20 million buys you 2-3 very good to great FA players....if the Chiefs can move him, they should. IMO. In Dorsey's defense...nobody saw Parker inadvertently ruining his chance to be one of the greats.

Think of trading (dumping) Houston for Tyrann Mathieu/Sherman/ Talib AND Muhammad Wilkerson? Would you do it? That is strictly from a financial angle...Shit, a Sherman/Mathieu/Berry/Fuller/Peters back end would be amazing...
Well to start: you're not going to get any combination of Mathieu, Sherman, Talib and Wilkerson for $20m AAV. Even if you did, who's going to rush the passer?

We can't even entertain the thought of cutting Houston until next offseason. More realistically, unless he actually has a bad season, he'll be here until 2020.
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Safeties need upgrading a great deal....and EB is gonna be 30yrs old coming off of a major injury.

Parker and Sorensen are both trash. Its good to know that the S talent in this years draft class is deep.

Chiefs need to look to upgrade in that dept. I mean really Chiefs need major upgrades at all levels on defense.
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