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Old 06-28-2005, 02:33 PM  
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Are you guys really putting DJ on the strong side?

Is this true?
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Old 06-28-2005, 02:42 PM   #16
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Old 06-28-2005, 02:43 PM   #17
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Indeed, he has.
Yeah. Mr. Football Prognosticator.
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Old 06-28-2005, 02:43 PM   #18
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Yeah. Mr. Football Prognosticator.


There's no prognostication about it. You made a statement of fact. Priest has lost his second level burst. It shows up in spurts, but it's not as consistent as it was pre-hip injury.
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Old 06-28-2005, 02:44 PM   #19
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Priest has lost his (second level) burst.
Did he lose it or just never have one? I remember some of the brain trust over at the Mane chuckling and having their kicks when I said Holmes was one of the faster backs in the league...


To one of the guys credit he did post an appology and ate his crow after the game Holmes closed about a 20 yard gap on that DB that picked off a pass...Can't remember exactly but it seemed like it was a young Jet CB.
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Old 06-28-2005, 02:44 PM   #20
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And Bell at WLB?

What? Masloswki wasn't available? What's Bell's 40 these days?
How about if you go ahead and put a star next to this, and get back to me when Liquid Plumber bootlegs to his side.


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Old 06-28-2005, 02:45 PM   #21
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You do realize that I hammered the fact that Gunther wasn't going to be enough to get your defense to even middle of the pack, and as a result you guys would be lucky to get to 8-8 with a tougher schedule? Knocked it out of the park.
Congrats, now you're batting .002 in the prediction department. Feel free to step up to the plate again.
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Old 06-28-2005, 02:46 PM   #22
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I think the "greatest weakness" bit is a little overblown. It wasn't that he had a problem in college, he simply didn't have to shed blocks because he was so athletic that he could simply avoid them altogether, yet somehow that strength in one area translated into a perceived weakness in another. I'd call that poor logic, and I am not going to assume that means he can't or won't do it as a professional, or that if it is a problem, it's an insurmountable one for someone with his natural gifts and work ethic. Either way, we'll see, hopefully. We've had a problem with draft picks being injured for as long as I've followed the team, so the primary thing I'm worried about right now is getting him through camp without a high ankle sprain, a hamstring injury or something more serious.
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Old 06-28-2005, 02:46 PM   #23
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We don't have strong and weakside LB's. Sorry. Try again.
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Old 06-28-2005, 02:48 PM   #24
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I remember reading that we don't play weak side/strong side, we play left and right OLB. The LB'ers stay in their position regarless of the TE.
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Old 06-28-2005, 02:49 PM   #25
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I think the "greatest weakness" bit is a little overblown. It wasn't that he had a problem in college, he simply didn't have to shed blocks because he was so athletic that he could simply avoid them altogether, yet somehow that strength in one area translated into a perceived weakness in another. I'd call that poor logic, and I am not going to assume that means he can't or won't do it as a professional, or that if it is a problem, it's an insurmountable one for someone with his natural gifts and work ethic. Either way, we'll see, hopefully. We've had a problem with draft picks being injured for as long as I've followed the team, so the primary thing I'm worried about right now is getting him through camp without a high ankle sprain, a hamstring injury or something more serious.
I'm just concerned about getting DJ into camp on time.
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Old 06-28-2005, 02:50 PM   #26
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The first time DJ blitzes Denver the only one that will look like he's running just as fast as him will be Plummer.

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Old 06-28-2005, 02:50 PM   #27
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We don't have strong and weakside LB's. Sorry. Try again.

Well it could be argued that we didn't have DT's, CB's or DE's the last couple seasons either.
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Old 06-28-2005, 02:51 PM   #28
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I think the "greatest weakness" bit is a little overblown. It wasn't that he had a problem in college, he simply didn't have to shed blocks because he was so much more athletic than anyone else on the field that he could simply avoid them altogether, yet somehow that strength in one area translated into a perceived weakness in another. I'd call that poor logic, and I am not going to assume that means he can't or won't do it as a professional, or that if it is a problem, it's an insurmountable one for someone with his natural gifts and work ethic. Either way, we'll see, hopefully. We've had a problem with draft picks being injured for as long as I've followed the team, so the primary thing I'm worried about right now is getting him through camp without a high ankle sprain, a hamstring injury or something more serious.


I would say that's an apologists view. When a guy gets hung up on a block, and can't overcome them when they are laid on him, that's a problem. Teams had to block DJ because he was such a disruptive force on the field. This knock on his game comes from the fact that the way teams would account for him was to put a blocker on him. To take a guy in his rookie year who isn't good at shedding blocks and putting him on the strong side is fool hardy, IMO. Not only will he have a tough time adjusting to the huge speed increase in the game, but he'll also have to adjust for a completely new position. It'll be interesting to see.
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Old 06-28-2005, 02:51 PM   #29
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There's no prognostication about it. You made a statement of fact. Priest has lost his second level burst. It shows up in spurts, but it's not as consistent as it was pre-hip injury.
Taco,

I want to personally thank you for coming to the Planet to spread your assanine contentions as "fact".

It makes it feel more like football season.

Best of luck w/ the Fake and Old Man Winter this season.
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Old 06-28-2005, 02:51 PM   #30
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We don't have strong and weakside LB's. Sorry. Try again.
You should have told him it was a smoke screen.......
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