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Old 10-15-2018, 05:19 PM  
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Is... is Kendall Fuller not that good?

I was expecting a ton of PBUs and QBs avoiding his side of the field... instead, he falls down a bunch, gets beat and gets flagged for PI a lot.

Perhaps thats just my impression.

Is it scheme? Youth? Wha ha happen?
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:43 PM   #46
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Seems like Fuller was getting outside reps thru game 4. (Maybe 5?) Is there a way to get those stats?
ExtremeSkins thought so, too. Looks like well need some hard data here.

If hes outside, his decline makes sense.

If not, oh ****
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:58 PM   #47
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If Fuller sucks ass in a different scheme and DC, I will agree.... Until then, I'm game for watching him under different management.
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:59 PM   #48
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Does it feel like he commits more PI penalties down the field or is it just me?
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Old 10-15-2018, 09:00 PM   #49
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Suttons scheme is also stupid for the shit it asks DB's to do. Do you think it's any coincidence how bad all of these guys look here?
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Old 10-15-2018, 09:08 PM   #50
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Oh mighty purveyor of arcane football stats, please enlighten the unclean & unknowing football pagans that are CP. How many snaps has Fuller taken at slot corner & how many at outside corner these first 6 games? Please redeem us with your wisdom..

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Old 10-15-2018, 09:09 PM   #51
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Peters is also playing through an injury.
Stop with this bullshit narrative. The injury has nothing to do with his bad play.
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Old 10-15-2018, 09:58 PM   #52
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Good defensive players become bad players when they join the Chiefs. Their ability levels go down, even though they should be in their prime years. Impossible to say why as there is no common link.
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Old 10-15-2018, 10:04 PM   #53
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If Fuller sucks ass in a different scheme and DC, I will agree.... Until then, I'm game for watching him under different management.
Dude had a 50/50 career up to the trade. He sucked shit his rookie season on the outside and had a good 2nd season as a slot. He was always a gamble, don't give a damn what some around here wanted to believe.

And frankly, he's been fine in coverage. Can't tackle worth a shit though.
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Old 10-15-2018, 10:15 PM   #54
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Right? Would have been nice to see Peters and Fuller together with this offense. No way Peters would still be sitting out with this team rolling on offense and struggling so much on defense. The guys too competitive. Its why the trade was so stupid.. He would absolutely be a difference to this team right now and anyone who denies that is absolutely delusional.

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Old 10-16-2018, 12:44 AM   #55
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He's a slot corner overmatched playing on the outside every down.

But it's that or give the safeties more responsibility and we know that ain't gonna work.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:46 AM   #56
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He's a slot corner overmatched playing on the outside every down.

But it's that or give the safeties more responsibility and we know that ain't gonna work.
Kinda reminds me of Bradley Roby

Roby is a good slot corner, but he's been destroyed playing on the outside this season.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:51 AM   #57
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He's a slot corner overmatched playing on the outside every down.

But it's that or give the safeties more responsibility and we know that ain't gonna work.
You know Veach and Sutton are salivating for the day Sorensen returns to the lineup. I'm sure they believe that will solve everything...
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:53 AM   #58
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I'd have to watch it again but mainly I felt like he just slipped and messed up twice because of that vs the Pats.
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Old 10-16-2018, 01:25 AM   #59
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I personally haven't watched many of the all 22 looks but I can't imagine the safties are giving any help to our corners the way they should be. Even just mentally I think that can have an impact. On the surface I am disappointed but I still expect him to be a player we are happy to have. It's really hard to gauge anything with this defense.
On the all-22 Fuller is always beat and grabbing. OK, not always, but very often he has to reach out and grab or hold.

I was just watching some different media clips about the game, and the NFL weekend in general, and I had a thought or a question, and that is, did Washington punk us?

Did they already know that he wasn't really that good? Had they already determined that his ceiling was just a good slot corner, so they didn't really feel like they were giving up as much as we thought we were getting?

I know Peters is going through a rough stretch right now, but even with his aversion to tackling, he produced for this team, and added more value to this team than Fuller has, even with all the behind the scenes drama he caused.

I am hoping that leading up to his promotion, Veach had only been scouting offense at Reid's request or something, because if he really put all his football knowledge into the defensive players he has acquired, then he has no idea how to identify defensive talent.

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Old 10-16-2018, 01:34 AM   #60
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Fuller has played below expectations. So has Hitchens.

The only guys that seems to be playing up to his potential (even though it isn't a high ceiling) is Scandrick and he's a 10-year vet.

Sutton HAS to be the problem at this point.
Scandrick has gotten better since the Chargers game. Against the Chargers he beaten badly on more than one occasion.

Hitchens kinda went in the other direction. He looked good early, but now his play has fallen off substantially. I know someone is going to bring up how many tackles he has, but someone on the defense has to get credited with tackles. It's like KU playing four guards, and Dave Armstrong talking up how well Vick rebounds. Someone has to get the rebounds.

They have both been big disappointments. But I feel like Sutton is coaching all the good habits and techniques out of Hitchens, but Fuller is just sooooo slooooow it does not matter where he lines up.

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