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Old 04-30-2016, 04:27 PM  
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Thoughts on the 2016 draft class

Chris Jones DL MSU
KeiVarae Russell CB ND
Parker Ehinger G/T Cincinnati
Eric Murray CB Minnesota
Demarcus Robinson WR Florida
Kevin Hogan QB Stanford
Tyreek Hill RB/PR West Alabama
DJ White CB Georgia Tech
Dadi Nicolas OLB Virginia Tech

What are your thoughts? Any steals? What's your initial grade?
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Old 04-30-2016, 07:30 PM   #136
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He's Claynus - he just has a crappy opinion to get attention.
Says the poster that cries for attention with the gay card. Get the **** out of here lol

It's okay to disagree dude. Just stop acting like a giant bitch about it.
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Old 04-30-2016, 07:33 PM   #137
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Yeah lets pump the sunshine on a 90's a Cowboys draft that Jerry would love.

It wasn't a great draft. Sorry your pussy is sore because everyone doesn't love everything.
Your football takes are about as relevant as Gerald Christian. Speaking of a sore pussy I think you should re-read your posts to see who really has a sore pussy. Holy **** you are dumb.
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Old 04-30-2016, 07:33 PM   #138
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And got suspended again for a different violation. Even actual Gator fans don't think he gave a shit.
Yeah, what was that, genious?

You're just bitching to bitch, as usual.

I feel sorry for your wife because she's always running out of tampons due to your bloody vagina.
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Old 04-30-2016, 07:33 PM   #139
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I think Hamas is calling the approach of replacing potential high cost free agents with previous picks a high floor low ceiling approach.

Doing it that way doesn't really extract full value out of your roster
I know what the **** he meant, and it's still stupid.

Horizontally building depth on a SB caliber roster is a great way to maintain success.

What is Dorsey supposed to do? Draft guys like Reggie Ragland at 28 to start. Or a Guard?

Trading up for Lynch would've been any different by definition?

Who's losing a starting job aside from Mauga and Reid/Fulton (at LG)?

What the **** do you people want from this guy?
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Old 04-30-2016, 07:34 PM   #140
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Says the poster that cries for attention with the gay card. Get the **** out of here lol
Anyone that has been around here long enough knows that I was outed by posters here - since then I have just embraced it. But by all means deflect on your shitty football takes.
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Old 04-30-2016, 07:34 PM   #141
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Yeah, what was that, genious?

You're just bitching to bitch, as usual.

I feel sorry for your wife because she's always running out of tampons due to your bloody vagina.
I didn't say the last one was for drugs, dumbass. He shouldn't get in trouble for anything by that point.

He was a Day 3 pick for a reason and teams don't give that much of a shit about weed. Put it together, Einstein.
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Old 04-30-2016, 07:34 PM   #142
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I think Hamas is calling the approach of replacing potential high cost free agents with previous picks a high floor low ceiling approach.

Doing it that way doesn't really extract full value out of your roster
Yeah, three consecutive winning seasons and the first playoff win in 23 years are proof that it's a failure of a concept.
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Old 04-30-2016, 07:35 PM   #143
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It's okay to disagree dude. Just stop acting like a giant bitch about it.
Say one positive thing -ONE - about this draft.
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Old 04-30-2016, 07:36 PM   #144
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I know what the **** he meant, and it's still stupid.

Horizontally building depth on a SB caliber roster is a great way to maintain success.

What is Dorsey supposed to do? Draft guys like Reggie Ragland at 28 to start. Or a Guard?

Trading up for Lynch would've been any different by definition?

Who's losing a starting job aside from Mauga and Reid?
Upgrading other positions is another way to look at it.

I like they way they're doing it, as it keeps you from bottoming out if your talent you pick is good.

But like Hamas is thinking, by doing that your potentially missing other good players as your looking to replace or potentially replace leaving guus a year away
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Old 04-30-2016, 07:36 PM   #145
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Upgrading other positions is another way to look at it.

I like they way they're doing it, as it keeps you from bottoming out if your talent you pick is good.

But like Hamas is thinking, by doing that your potentially missing other good players as your looking to replace or potentially replace leaving guus a year away
Who did we pas up on that you can give me an example of this?
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Old 04-30-2016, 07:38 PM   #147
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Say one positive thing -ONE - about this draft.
They got some great values with some of the corners. While 3 is a bit much, you can't have enough pass defenders.

Maybe you missed that I was actually pretty complimentary last night. I commended them for actually getting a pass rushing DL over an overrated Bama fatty that can't rush.
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Yeah, three consecutive winning seasons and the first playoff win in 23 years are proof that it's a failure of a concept.
I dint think Hamas said it was a failure
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Who did we pas up on that you can give me an example of this?
I'd imagine it would of involved going up to get the best corner available to play for next year.

I wouldn't recommend it myself, but frankly, he'd have to tell you which way he'd go.
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Old 04-30-2016, 07:40 PM   #150
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How the **** is Dorsey's approach high floor/low ceiling when he's taking guys with high ceilings at just about every pick?

With the draft he had last year, this is such a ridiculous statement. Guys like you and DJLN think you're way smarter than you are. You aren't idiots, but you're arrogant and borderline ignorant sometimes.
The general philosphy is to try and replace guys like Sean Smith, Hali, Poe, etc. with guys that, if they hit, would be no better.

Replacing a great player with the potential for a great player is nice, but at best it ends up as a zero sum game. Furthermore, what happens if a guy like Ford ends up as a disappointment?

Remember when the Chiefs needed a DT in the worst way and they traded down, thinking they could get Olshanksy, only for him to go to SD, so they panicked and took Siavii? That was a team reaching for a need for that year.

What the Chiefs appear to do in every draft is address a need for the year after.

Albert-Fisher
Hali-Ford
Smith-Peters
Poe-Jones

If those guys work out you've patched holes with players that might be as good and will be cheaper, but that's the risk. If they aren't as good, you have to go out and spend money while also wasting draft capital.

Fortunately for Chiefs fans, Dorsey's evaluation skills seem to be better than average, but the philosophy still has significant weaknesses overall because you never strengthen an already good unit--you just sew up the bullet wound to an existing one.
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