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Old 12-08-2014, 09:46 AM  
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5 Things Keep The Chiefs a Pretender not A Contender

Ok in the wake of the total melt down and anything and everything associated with the Chiefs is wrong let's take a realistic analysis. In today's NFL there is NO team without holes. The business side along with the lack of practice time make it impossible to have truly dominate teams like the past. Those days are gone and the NFL does not care to fix it.

So what is holding back the Chiefs from really being a contender? Here are five things in order of biggest problem to lesser problem.

1. Andy Reid. Watching Andy this season I really believe he is the biggest problem. In some ways he is a GREAT coach. He does have a great offensive mind. But he has major flaws in the following areas:

HE IS STUBBORN and/or ARROGANT. His absolute refusal to stretch the field (I believe it is more him than Smith) is just amazing. He does not care what the other team is doing, he thinks he can just out scheme and out execute them. More often than not, he does for good stretches of the game. If he would just take some shots early to keep them honest, but he won't. In a sixty minute game you can't play a professional D and be successful and only use the 5 yards on either side of the line of scrimmage.

HORRENDOUS CLOCK MANAGER. There is a long history of issues with Andy's amazing lack of competence in this area. All teams from time to time pull off some really terrible two minutes drives....the ball bounces wrong, doesn't get out of bounds, don't stop the clock at the right time etc etc. It happens, but Andy is consistent. Almost every time you are scratching your head at best, or just plan rolling on the floor laughing at how inept it was.

NOT AN EMOTIONAL LEADER. As bad as he is in the two previous areas I really think this might be the biggest problem with Andy. I like a coach who is calm and under control. But football is an emotional game. A football team always reflects the leader's personality. In two season under Andy I have never seen the Chiefs play emotional, fired-up, enthusiastic football. Didn't see it in Philly either. My goodness you just had one of the leaders of your team get diagnosed with a terrible disease and the best we could do was wear the emotion on a t-shirt. It sure didn't translate to the field. Oh you can see them try sometimes. They run around and jump up and down, slap each other in the head. But, you don't see guys flying to the ball on D or running over defenders. The Chiefs play far to much for the business of football and not enough love of football.

2. Problem #2 is Mike McGlynn. The Oline has other issues, but McGlynn is by far the biggest one. I really do not understand why they refuse to give someone else a chance. It can't be any worse. I certainly have not done any statistical analysis but in watch every game McGlynn has to be responsible for at least 50% of the Oline breakdowns this year. It is not just one area, he gets beat every way imaginable. Bull rush-check, whiffs-check, doesn't block the inside gap-check. I think Andy likes the guy because he is pretty good at pulling and making open field blocks, but the other stuff is far to big a negative.

Fix McGlynn and this line would be very serviceable. Not great, but serviceable.

3. Ignoring the WR group. How in the the world they did not add a WR during the off-season is just plan unimaginable. And this draft was loaded at WR. I get they tried to get Sanders, but it does not matter. You can't try you had to get a professional WR. I guess Andy would argue I wasn't planning on using them so why waste the picks. You could let the entire group go tomorrow, and Bowe would be the only guy who would even get another job.

4. Refusal to use Travis Kelce. Almost every single time they throw him the ball it is a 10, 15, 20 yard completion. Why don't you get him 10 targets game in and game out. Does Brady feed Gronk? Does Brees feed Graham? YES and YES. Why, because they are impossible to defend. Kelce is that kind of TE! Use him.

5. Defensive Back End. This Chiefs have had a train wreck in the back end for years now. I don't understand why it has gone on this long. They can't catch, they can't cover, they have no apparent awareness of scheme. I respect the fact playing pass defense is one of the hardest things to do in pro football, but this is ridiculous. I think we have sub-par personnel and then the non-aggressive scheme we deploy does not allow them to be successful. Smith is about the only guy back there who should be retained. Maybe Gaines as he is a rookie.

I realize many would say Alex Smith should be on this list. I agree he is a problem when it comes to wining a Superbowl Championship. It will never happen with Alex. But, Alex can be a very successful QB and you can be a contender and win playoff games with Alex if you fix these other problems. Just not a Superbowl.

The good news is all but Andy is fixable. I say that because Clark will not pull the plug on Andy this quick. The Chiefs have a truck load of picks in the next draft. We get 3 starters and some depth through the draft. Pick up two quality free agents and the Chiefs could, could contend if somehow we can overcome Andy.

If not, it is still so much better than Pioli and Hali.
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Old 12-08-2014, 09:52 AM   #2
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If Andy Reid is too stubborn to stretch the field.....than why do you see WRs running deep routes?

This is on Alex Smith and his refusal to throw to anyone who doesn't have at least 3-5 steps on the DB.
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Old 12-08-2014, 09:55 AM   #4
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Charles touched the ball twelve times... TWELVE.

Let that sink in...
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Old 12-08-2014, 09:59 AM   #5
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Charles touched the ball twelve times... TWELVE.

Let that sink in...
As much as Charles needs to touch the ball more, he was hurt for a while. Also, there is aother players on this team. They just need to throw them the ****ing ball and not check it for 3 yards.
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Old 12-08-2014, 09:59 AM   #6
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This is going to sound really goofy for a lot of you to hear, but the offense isn't that broken.

The second we lost our third tight end, the offense crumbled. Bring in two more WRs and have 3 healthy tight ends, and you'll be fine.

In my mock this morning, I:

1. re-signed Avant
2. brought in Jermaine Kearse
3. drafted Rashad Greene
4. cut Fasano
5. brought in Lance Kendricks
6. drafted C.J. Uzomah

WR: Bowe, Kearse, Greene, Avant, Thomas
TE: Kelce, Kendricks, Uzomah

That largely fixes the passing game. After that, you need to make serious investments at CB and passrusher (assuming we cut Hali -- which I do), and an investment somewhere at OL.

I think all of this can happen this offseason.

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Old 12-08-2014, 10:00 AM   #7
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Alex Smith is a hell of a lot more responsible for the refusal to throw downfield than Andy Reid. I get that there are a ton of designed short plays. But too many instances of Smith checking away from a receiver who is either open or could be thrown open.

He started to do some of that last year. This year, he's back to the conservative bullshit. For me, Smith is by far the biggest problem.
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Old 12-08-2014, 10:02 AM   #8
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If Andy Reid is too stubborn to stretch the field.....than why do you see WRs running deep routes?

This is on Alex Smith and his refusal to throw to anyone who doesn't have at least 3-5 steps on the DB.
I am just curious..who are the WR's that are running deep and at what part of the game?
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Old 12-08-2014, 10:05 AM   #10
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It is 2014 and the Chiefs have no passing game.
This....

WCO is out dated now... The short passing game isn't going to win in the NFL. This is the new Al Davis league. Just air it out baby...

Andy and Alex are not built for the modern day NFL...
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Ok in the wake of the total melt down and anything and everything associated with the Chiefs is wrong let's take a realistic analysis. In today's NFL there is NO team without holes. The business side along with the lack of practice time make it impossible to have truly dominate teams like the past. Those days are gone and the NFL does not care to fix it.

So what is holding back the Chiefs from really being a contender? Here are five things in order of biggest problem to lesser problem.

1. Andy Reid. Watching Andy this season I really believe he is the biggest problem. In some ways he is a GREAT coach. He does have a great offensive mind. But he has major flaws in the following areas:

HE IS STUBBORN and/or ARROGANT. His absolute refusal to stretch the field (I believe it is more him than Smith) is just amazing. He does not care what the other team is doing, he thinks he can just out scheme and out execute them. More often than not, he does for good stretches of the game. If he would just take some shots early to keep them honest, but he won't. In a sixty minute game you can't play a professional D and be successful and only use the 5 yards on either side of the line of scrimmage.

wrong on that. seen A22 film showing 1v1's deep, Alex just wont take a shot.



2. Problem #2 is Mike McGlynn. The Oline has other issues, but McGlynn is by far the biggest one. I really do not understand why they refuse to give someone else a chance. It can't be any worse. I certainly have not done any statistical analysis but in watch every game McGlynn has to be responsible for at least 50% of the Oline breakdowns this year. It is not just one area, he gets beat every way imaginable. Bull rush-check, whiffs-check, doesn't block the inside gap-check. I think Andy likes the guy because he is pretty good at pulling and making open field blocks, but the other stuff is far to big a negative.

Fix McGlynn and this line would be very serviceable. Not great, but serviceable.

agree on the patchwork OL sucking it up.


3. Ignoring the WR group. How in the the world they did not add a WR during the off-season is just plan unimaginable. And this draft was loaded at WR. I get they tried to get Sanders, but it does not matter. You can't try you had to get a professional WR. I guess Andy would argue I wasn't planning on using them so why waste the picks. You could let the entire group go tomorrow, and Bowe would be the only guy who would even get another job.

agreed

4. Refusal to use Travis Kelce. Almost every single time they throw him the ball it is a 10, 15, 20 yard completion. Why don't you get him 10 targets game in and game out. Does Brady feed Gronk? Does Brees feed Graham? YES and YES. Why, because they are impossible to defend. Kelce is that kind of TE! Use him.

Perfect example why is yesterday. 2 big drops, a huge missed block (DAT got blown up on the jet sweep), and a late game fumble.

5. Defensive Back End. This Chiefs have had a train wreck in the back end for years now. I don't understand why it has gone on this long. They can't catch, they can't cover, they have no apparent awareness of scheme. I respect the fact playing pass defense is one of the hardest things to do in pro football, but this is ridiculous. I think we have sub-par personnel and then the non-aggressive scheme we deploy does not allow them to be successful. Smith is about the only guy back there who should be retained. Maybe Gaines as he is a rookie.

some of this is because of KC's defensive scheme, which relies on generating 4 man pass rush. Tamba/Poe not really doing too much on the pass rush. Mauga and JMJ horrid in coverage. Wat do??


I realize many would say Alex Smith should be on this list. I agree he is a problem when it comes to wining a Superbowl Championship. It will never happen with Alex. But, Alex can be a very successful QB and you can be a contender and win playoff games with Alex if you fix these other problems. Just not a Superbowl.

The good news is all but Andy is fixable. I say that because Clark will not pull the plug on Andy this quick. The Chiefs have a truck load of picks in the next draft. We get 3 starters and some depth through the draft. Pick up two quality free agents and the Chiefs could, could contend if somehow we can overcome Andy.

If not, it is still so much better than Pioli and Hali.
comments in red. Andy not going anywhere for a while, me think.
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This....

WCO is out dated now... The short passing game isn't going to win in the NFL. This is the new Al Davis league. Just air it out baby...

Andy and Alex are not built for the modern day NFL...
We use some WCO passing concepts, but then again ALL NFL teams do. Their are vertically passing concepts we use... Alex won't take a shot.
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Old 12-08-2014, 10:12 AM   #14
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We use some WCO passing concepts, but then again ALL NFL teams do. Their are vertically passing concepts we use... Alex won't take a shot.
True, Alex wont take a shot, the OL refuse to hold pass blocks, our WR is just trash from top to bottom... Water is wet, sky is blue...

You factor in all 3 of those and you get the Chiefs offense...
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KC's 1-2 punch received 11 carries... they caught 5 passes for 23 yards.

During the 3 loss span, the combined rush attempts were 17, 15 and 24.

If you're not a passing team, those rush attempts should be higher. Those rush attempt totals aren't that much different compared to the previous 3 wins, but ... that's the issue, IMO.

If you're a rush oriented team --- run the damn ball. KC has scored 9 points in the 2H of the last two games.

Run the damn ball... that's the mantra, sounds simple, but not sure why they don't do it more consistently. I don't know what the breakdown is on rushes per half during the last 3 games.
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