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Old 06-04-2013, 12:30 PM  
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Meet the girl Jason Collins strung along 8 years

Remember where you were when you found out America's greatest living role model, Jason Collins, came out of the closet? Remember the tears of joy you cried when you read President Obama said he "couldn't be prouder" of Collins (despite openly campaigning against gay marriage while running for President)?


Remember when you rushed straight to internet chat boards ready to angrily denounce any intolerant "bigots" who were sure to gay bash him, ready to make that principled stand on acceptance - only to find out everyone was tripping over themselves to congratulate Jason already?


Well turns out Jason Collins strung Carolyn Moos along 8 years without ever having the decency to tell her the truth. She isnow 34 and having her eggs frozen in an effort to keep childbearing a possibility:




While this has to be the price of intolerance (or somehow tied to George W. Bush in some way), what role does Collins play in this? Or is our new national hero blameless for any of his lying? He wasted 8 years of her life, made marriage plans, called off the marriage, never told her the truth. Sounds like an asshole to me. Not someone I'd want my daughter spending 8 years with, whether he turned out gay or was straight.




'I just try to live an honest, genuine life and next thing you know you have the president calling you,' he said. Yeahhhhhh Jason. You're just an honest, genuine guy.
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Old 06-06-2013, 11:24 AM   #211
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If someone did interview the woman and find that she wanted to talk and complain I don't think there's anything homophobic or hateful about it. He's the one that introduced his story to the media. It would be part of the story.
But unless I missed it she didn't say anything about it. All I saw was her photo. I don't know why anyone would bother speculating that she might feel wronged.
Read the article again. She talked about having to explain to people why their wedding was canceled, how hard it was, and then how she didn't think she shoujld've waited 8 years to hear from him the story. She clearly feels wronged. As any sane person would.
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Old 06-06-2013, 11:27 AM   #212
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It does raise the question of whether gays will now be folded in as part of the GOP's "war on women". Think about it.
Half of gays ARE women, so I'm thinking this is a pretty absurd point
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Old 06-06-2013, 12:05 PM   #213
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Old 06-06-2013, 01:25 PM   #214
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Old 06-06-2013, 01:49 PM   #215
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How is this thread still going? Who gives a ****?
Because Collins is attending fundraisers with Michelle Obama this week. He's still going, why shouldn't the thread?
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Old 06-06-2013, 03:54 PM   #216
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The entire reason you've heard of Collins is because he came out as being gay. These are completely different situations despite your attempts to draw parallels.
And the only reason people have heard of Sanford is b/c he was outted for adultery.

I get what your saying but we're not seeing eye-to-eye on this, and that's fine.

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To me it's less important that he's gay or the "coming out" but that he is out. In 29 states, people can be fired b/c of their sexuality. Can someone be fired for cheating on their spouse? PB can be as butthurt as he wants for the attention Collins got, but until LGBT are afforded more equal rights, stories like these will still be a big deal...for 15 minutes (and again when PB brings them up months later).
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Old 06-06-2013, 03:58 PM   #217
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Can someone be fired for cheating on their spouse?
Is this a serious question?
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:58 AM   #218
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And the only reason people have heard of Sanford is b/c he was outted for adultery.

I get what your saying but we're not seeing eye-to-eye on this, and that's fine.

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To me it's less important that he's gay or the "coming out" but that he is out. In 29 states, people can be fired b/c of their sexuality. Can someone be fired for cheating on their spouse? PB can be as butthurt as he wants for the attention Collins got, but until LGBT are afforded more equal rights, stories like these will still be a big deal...for 15 minutes (and again when PB brings them up months later).
Yes, in at least 29 states. Does that have any effect on your "equal rights" take or will you just shrug it off?
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:24 AM   #219
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:51 AM   #220
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Because Collins is attending fundraisers with Michelle Obama this week. He's still going, why shouldn't the thread?
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Yes, in at least 29 states. Does that have any effect on your "equal rights" take or will you just shrug it off?
so gay people can't get married, but can be fired for their sexuality in 29 states, regardless of cheating

straight people can marry, but can be fired in 29 states if they happen to get caught cheating

gay people can be fired in 29 states for being themselves, where as straight people can only be fired in 29 states if caught screwing around

in that respect straights have more rights

HOWEVER, if gays are allowed to be married, NOT ONLY can they be fired in 29 states for being themselves, they can also be fired in 29 states for cheating as well

which means if they ever do get the right to marry they're TWICE as likely to be fired as straights over sexual behavior, and are actually more likely to keep their jobs if they remain denied the right to marry like they are now
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Old 06-07-2013, 01:12 PM   #223
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I know you can be fired for cheating on your wife in Arkansas. Ask Bobby Petrino.
He was fired for more than just cheating on his wife...

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On April 10, Long announced that Petrino had been fired. During Long's investigation, it was discovered that Petrino made a previously undisclosed $20,000 cash gift to Dorrell as a Christmas present. It was also revealed that Dorrell may have received preferential treatment in her hiring to the football staff, as Petrino's relationship with Dorrell was not disclosed and Petrino was on the hiring committee. Long determined that Petrino's attempts to mislead both him and the public about the accident and his relationship with Dorrell were grounds to fire Petrino for cause.[3][14][15] Long also determined that the $20,000 payment could expose Arkansas to a sexual harassment suit if Petrino were retained.
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Old 06-07-2013, 01:22 PM   #224
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so gay people can't get married, but can be fired for their sexuality in 29 states, regardless of cheating

straight people can marry, but can be fired in 29 states if they happen to get caught cheating

gay people can be fired in 29 states for being themselves, where as straight people can only be fired in 29 states if caught screwing around

in that respect straights have more rights

HOWEVER, if gays are allowed to be married, NOT ONLY can they be fired in 29 states for being themselves, they can also be fired in 29 states for cheating as well

which means if they ever do get the right to marry they're TWICE as likely to be fired as straights over sexual behavior, and are actually more likely to keep their jobs if they remain denied the right to marry like they are now
I think I got lost somewhere, but here's the thing... when people say that you can be fired in 29 states for being gay, what they're really saying (even if they don't understand this themselves) is that in those 29 states, employers can fire you for anything that's not specifically protected by law or constitution. So, you can't be fired because of race in those states, but you can be fired for being unattractive or having red hair or because you use the words "ain't" and "'cuz" too much or because you cheated on your wife. It's not like 29 states have laws that specifically say it's OK to fire people for being gay. In those states, being gay is like being left handed or pronouncing the word "often" with a hard "t" sound instead of leaving it silent. It's just a run-of-the-mill characteristic.
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If the woman is mad and wants to talk to the media then it is a valid story as far as I'm concerned. It wouldn't interest me much, personally. His story doesn't interest me much personally. But he began the public coming-out, so I don't see anything wrong with some media outlet giving her a platform to tell her side of things.
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