WR drop rate

[planetdoc]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...drop-rate-wrs/

excerpts below

Often receivers have been lambasted for their numbers of drops and while that can be fair game, how can we compare one player dropping 20 balls when he is thrown 150, to another dropping six when he is thrown 40?

Well, what we’ve done is gather a few numbers to really answer which receivers have the best hands. Firstly, we’ve created the catchable balls number which adds up catches and drops. We then collect a percentage of how many drops a receiver had by their catchable balls, and presto! …you’ve got yourself a ‘drop rate’ — the best metric out there for determining the hands of receivers.

Bowe came in at #65, with 8 drops on 65 catchable passes, with a drop rate of 12.31%

He was the only KC wr listed, and no other KC wr (with at least 40 catchable passes) had a drop rate worse than him.

Jamaal Charles came in #26 among running backs (4th worst) with 10 drops on 80 catchable balls for a drop rate of 12.5%

none of the chiefs TE were among the best or worst in drops: link

[planetdoc]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

If an official list was released, I think we would all be shocked at the amount of NFL players who smoke pot.

yup. There are plenty of highly functioning professionals in many fields who are able to do their job while medicated on canabis (likely sativa strains).

Dont blame the drug, blame the individual.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by BossChief

The weird thing about Bowe is that he seems to have issues catching the wide open passes, but almost always hauls in the hard catches that take major skill.

Say what you want about Todd Haley, Dwayne Bowe caught everything in 2010 when Haley had him focused and TBH I think Todd told him to stop smoking pot.

I used to smoke a lot of pot and I can relate.

It's not a sight issue because that's was les miles thought at LSU and had Bowe get corrective surgery. It's a lack of focus.

For his sake, I do hope he stops smoking pot and ends his career with a ring because of it.

I bet if he quits and dedicates himself again to finish his career strong, he will have a string of 1300/13td seasons (his personal goal he had for last year that he told me face to face at training camp before the 2013 season)

[MahiMike]

I don't know how they count these but I'd say these numbers are very low. Bowe drops 12 balls a month. It's not just the obvious in-your-grasp drops. It's the passes where you have to extend and make an effort he sucks at too. I've seen #4WRs make better catches than alligator armed Bowe.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Bowe struggles getting separation, and he has to rely on his size, which makes things more difficult on his QBs, especially if you have to also worry that the guy's not going to catch the ball in those situations.


Chiefs fans can point to that. It's not racist. We can all agree that there have been, and continue to be, plenty of white players who struggle getting separation from defenders.


Despite SNR's bullshit post and your followups, the simple truth is that catching the catchable balls is actually important.

First of all, I never said catching the ball wasn't important. I said that dropping the ball isn't the end of the world. And it isn't.

Second, I'm sure you've read all of the "he points to the back of his jersey" bullshit over the years. You know what I'm talking about and you know it's the ****ing truth.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by MIAdragon

I hear what you're saying but who gives a shit how pretty the route and the speed it was run if the WR drops the ball? After all it only counts if he brings it in right? So yes drops are a big deal and should not be ignored.

As for Jerry Rice, IIRC he has the best catch to drop ration of any receiver all time.

Who gives a shit if a WR can catch the ball 100% of the time if he can't beat a defender or ****ing get open?

Someone brought it up earlier. Go find a 40-year old beer-gutted bricklayer if you want an asshole who's going to catch the ball. If you want a WR, the FIRST THINGS you look at is the athletic ability and specifically how that aids the player in running routes, shielding away from defenders, and putting himself in the position to make the play. That's the first 99% of looking at a WR. The final 1% is "okay, now how consistently does he catch the ball?"

Yet people act like that's all that ****ing matters at WR. And they have their ****ing periods about dropped passes more than ANYTHING else. Whiffed blocks? Shitty QB throws? Bad angles from defenders? Yeah, they bitch about those things, but the WR dropped the pass? HOLY **** CUT THAT GUY SICK OF HIS SHIT WHERE'S BOBBY SIPPIO????

Hell, most of them aren't even legit drops that they bitch about. Just look at any of the game threads from the last 3 seasons. You could have any errant Cassel/Smith throw directed at Bowe get blamed on Bowe. The ball could be wobbling 2 inches from the ground, Bowe would get a hand on it, but then let it fall to the ground, and people would say, "Catch the damn ball, Bowe! Sick of your shit!" Just because he gets a hand on the ball doesn't mean it's a drop, but according to some people that's all that counts.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by loochy

Lolwut? Smoking pot makes you better at EVERYTHING, including arts and craf ts and guitar. /bump

Bowe would play better if he lived in a city like Boston that smells like cinnamon rolls 24/7 and where there's a hot supermodel on every corner waiting to blow you

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Seems like saying it isn't important for a WR to be able to catch is like saying it isn't important for a QB to throw well or an RB to be fast.

Sure, you can get away with being a little sub-par in those areas and make up for it with other attributes, but your other attributes better be pretty ****ing good.

Catching the ball is important. If you have a 50% drop rate, that's a pretty ****ing big glaring issue.

If your drop rate is 10%, that's also not the best thing in the world, but it's entirely forgivable if you just ****ing make plays.

Bowe absolutely was that WR from 2008-2012. When Smith came along, he struggled to adapt. Let's hope he's figured shit out now.

[Otter]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

lol, Bowe and Mike Wallace really living up to their contracts

In all fairness, you can't really compare a 20 something professional athlete to a 80 something journalist.

[planetdoc]

OP updated with Jamaal's drops. According to PFF, he is among the worst (in regards to drops) among rbs.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by planetdoc

OP updated with Jamaal's drops. According to PFF, he is among the worst (in regards to drops) among rbs.

Cut his ass.

(See why drops don't ****ing matter?)

[planetdoc]

drops do matter.

Dropped passes may be in Chiefs' DNA

Charles leads the league in dropped passes with nine, an indication he’s not as polished as a receiver as the Chiefs would like. Bowe has struggled with dropped passes his entire career, while Avery has also had bouts with drops over the years.

It’s something the Chiefs continue to work on before, during and after practice. But with the receivers they have, extra repetition may only get them so far.

“You’ve got to focus on the football,’’ coach Andy Reid said. “We’ve seen a lot of man coverage the last couple of weeks. It’s tight coverage. It becomes a physical game. You’ve to make sure you focus even that much more on the football and stay aggressive on the ball. We keep working it in practice.’’

DROPPED PASSES AN EPIDEMIC FOR STUMBLING CHIEFS

The Chiefs have finally started to put up some offense the last three weeks, but an epidemic of bobbled balls and dastardly drops has kept them from putting more points on the board — maybe even kept them from becoming the first NFL team to start 9-0 and then lose three straight.

"I'm always going to try to make sure we get the guys in the right position. The guys when they're in that position, they have to make the play," said Chiefs coach Andy Reid.

"If drops are part of that," Reid said, "you go back and you just focus, make sure you're looking at the ball all the way in. You go back to fundamentals. When things aren't going your way as a player or a coach, you go back to focusing in on the small things."

After all, catching the football is something that's usually learned in grade school.

"There's been some plays that we didn't make and, you know, you just have to overcome those," said wide receiver Junior Hemingway, whose playing time has increased in part because he hasn't been dropping passes. "That's basically what it comes down to."

Sounds easy enough. It's been painfully difficult for the Chiefs.

Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith shouldered some of the burden for the recent spate of drops.

"Those things are going to happen. It's my job to keep throwing them," he said. "I certainly missed my fair share as well. That's the nature of the passing game. You're striving for perfection. You'd like to hit every one, but that's not going to happen."

Chiefs tight end Sean McGrath said the biggest frustration with dropped passes is finding a solution to them. You can spend precious practice time on fundamentals — throwing and catching the ball — but it's hard to replicate the timing and pressure of a game situation.

"There's got to be an extra push, an extra emphasis on concentration," McGrath said. "You have to secure the catch, and make sure that gets done before anything else, before any up-yard movement. We have to secure the catch because the ball is the most important thing.

"As long as you're taking care of that," he said, "good things can happen."