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Old 02-25-2013, 08:35 PM  
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Chiefs | Looking to trade No. 1 pick?
Mon, 25 Feb 2013 07:36:51 -0800

The Kansas City Chiefs are seeking to move out from the No. 1 overall spot in the NFL Draft regardless if they acquire a quarterback via trade, according to multiple league executives.

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Old 02-26-2013, 12:26 PM   #136
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Then explain what Mayock, McShay and Kiper said in that quote?
They're idiots. Why do I ever care what they have to say.

I do like McShay, though.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:26 PM   #137
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WE all knew that they would take Stafford. Because we're not stupid.

The talking heads did the same thing they're doing now - exploring everybody other than Stafford, right up till the point that the Lions took him.
Far as I know, at least 95% of the mocks that year were calling us for Stafford.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:28 PM   #138
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The Lions are going to have all the best players in if they're at #1. That's due dilligence.
Or a dog and pony show.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:29 PM   #139
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Stafford's final year of college....he had A.J. Green.


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Old 02-26-2013, 12:38 PM   #140
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Edit: It's also worth noting that Geno was playing with multiple NFL caliber receivers. Tavon Austin is probably a first rounder. To my knowledge, Stafford did not have that.
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Stafford's final year of college....he had A.J. Green.
He also had Mohammed Massaquoi (2nd round draft pick @ WR) and a guy named Knowshon Moreno (1st round RB).
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Old 02-26-2013, 01:04 PM   #141
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Stafford has the strongest arm in the league, almost certainly. He also had multiple years playing at a very good level against the toughest defenses the SEC had to offer. In his final year, he was extremely impressive.

Geno Smith has never been extremely impressive. He's very up and down, which hopefully our coaches could correct. He has extremely impressive tools, and he seems like a good guy, but his on the field product is much, much worse than Stafford's was, and against weaker defenses.

Edit: It's also worth noting that Geno was playing with multiple NFL caliber receivers. Tavon Austin is probably a first rounder. To my knowledge, Stafford did not have that.
Stafford was on a loaded team. WV had Geno and three WRs with no RB O line or defense. To me Stafford's arm is a 'little' over rated Stafford was a better prospect but they're not that far apart. At this point if I were to do another comparison of other QBs to Geno Smith I would put him between Bradford and Stafford as a prospect.
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Old 02-26-2013, 01:11 PM   #142
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I'd take Geno over the rest of the QB's drafted in the last 5 years except Stafford, Luck and RG3.

Also like to add even though the Lions were heard to be shopping the pick, their coach said they needed to get a pro-bowl QB up there. Similarly, when Reid was asked about the QB situation here he first stated that we have the 1st pick...
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Old 02-26-2013, 01:13 PM   #143
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Stafford was on a loaded team. WV had Geno and three WRs with no RB O line or defense. To me Stafford's arm is a 'little' over rated Stafford was a better prospect but they're not that far apart. At this point if I were to do another comparison of other QBs to Geno Smith I would put him between Bradford and Stafford as a prospect.
Stafford has a damn howitzer. His arm strength is WAY better than Smith's.
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Old 02-26-2013, 01:13 PM   #144
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The Lions are going to have all the best players in if they're at #1. That's due dilligence.
That's what I have been saying. And the pundits were projecting those guys to go to Detroit at #1.

Just like what is going one here maybe?

Maybe in the end it was Geno all the way... and all the rest is due dilligence.
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He also had Mohammed Massaquoi (2nd round draft pick @ WR) and a guy named Knowshon Moreno (1st round RB bust that's a huge piece of shit in the NFL).
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If Reid does really love Foles, and if Chip Kelly really wants Geno Smith, maybe then a swap? Other than that, I just don't see teams giving up a lot for the right to take Geno Smith or Luke Joeckel.
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Depends entirely on what Dorsey and Reid think of him. We're gonna find out fairly soon. If we trade for Alex Smith, then that says they don't believe in him or Barkley.
I don't agree 100%. I think its more of a transitional thing. If Alex Smith is brought in, I don't really see a reason why a QB can't be taken first overall. I wouldn't necessarily expect it, but I wouldn't rule it out completely. I think in the worst case, it just means they don't see any of the rookies as week 1 starters.
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