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Old 01-21-2019, 08:49 AM  
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Dee Ford: What next?
Posting this here because it feels much more likely to be a viable intelligent conversation right now and not a bunch of ‘**** you **** him!!!’.....

Alright. So what do you guys think we should do/will do with him now?

I think it’s prisoner of the moment thinking to say they should let him go based on the one play last night. But that doesn’t mean that it is or isn’t the right move necessarily. We’ve also got to consider that this front 4 could be even more lethal with a new DC.

The way I see it, it’s either tag or tag & trade. And I guess for me it would come down to where the cap sits and how much I can get back in said potential trade.

Thoughts?...
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Old 01-23-2019, 09:54 PM   #61
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Ford should only be seeing the field in known passing situations. Beyond that, he's a net negative in every other aspect of the game.



He's given the Chiefs 30.5 sacks in five years. You're going to be paying him like he's a 13 sack guy, but is he really? You don't pay for the aberration year, you pay for what the player is likely to give you.



For example: Aaron Donald had a career year this year, getting more sacks than he had in 2016 and 17 combined. Do you think he's going to continue to put up 20 sacks per year, or is he closer to a 12-14 sack guy?



Ford may give you 8-10 sacks a year on average (if healthy), but if that is coupled with horrific run defense, why pay him 15-18 million per year? Wouldn't a guy that gives you 6-8 sacks per year and plays competent run defense be a much better alternative and a hell of a lot cheaper?

Yes, yes, a million times, yes.
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Old 01-24-2019, 08:58 AM   #62
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Yeah, I'm just kind of tired of paying guys after contract years and getting bent over.

Let someone else pay him. Tag him and take a 3rd if you have too. If someone gives you a 2nd, take it and trade it for a ****ing corner.
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Old 01-24-2019, 01:26 PM   #63
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[Teope] Asked Chiefs OLB Dee Ford on what he hopes will be done in free agency: “That’s THE option,” Ford said of re-signing with the Chiefs. “I love the community and I’m just used to that environment. So, I’ll be blessed to be able to stay. We’ll cross that bridge when we get there.”
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Old 01-24-2019, 01:29 PM   #64
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Bye Ford. Go get your big contract from another team.
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Old 01-24-2019, 02:33 PM   #65
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FWIW Matt Miller did a long mock draft (2 rd) on his podcast and mentioned that the Chiefs will be looking for a corner or pass rusher. Mentioned a few names like Byron Murphy (trade up) and Jaylon Ferguson for first rd options.

He mentioned that pass rusher was a strong bet bc Dee Ford has one good year and Houston is an expensive 30 year old player with signs of declining soon.

This guy talks to Veach, which is why I like him. There’s clues that he floats ever Spring.
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Old 01-26-2019, 09:04 AM   #66
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Saw the idea of trading Ford + pick 29 to Green Bay for pick 12 + pick 75. A lot of people seemed to dislike it I guess because they want to keep Ford at all costs, but that’d be a hard trade to pass on IMO.
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Old 01-26-2019, 09:07 AM   #67
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That wouldn’t be a bad idea. I’d rather trade him to the bucs. Ford and 29 for their first rounder and a third?
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Old 01-26-2019, 09:17 AM   #68
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That wouldn’t be a bad idea. I’d rather trade him to the bucs. Ford and 29 for their first rounder and a third?
TB picks 5th so it would probably require another pick from the Chiefs in that scenario.
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TB picks 5th so it would probably require another pick from the Chiefs in that scenario.
Ford, one of our seconds and our first for their first and one of their defensive front 7 players that doesn’t fit the 34
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Ford, one of our seconds and our first for their first and one of their defensive front 7 players that doesn’t fit the 34
Well the big + about letting Ford go is the cap relief, so I’m not sure they’ll want anything more than draft picks for him.

But with a pick near the top 10, you’re potentially getting a better player than Ford at some position for 1/4 of the cost.
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Well the big + about letting Ford go is the cap relief, so I’m not sure they’ll want anything more than draft picks for him.

But with a pick near the top 10, you’re potentially getting a better player than Ford at some position for 1/4 of the cost.
True but they’re also going to want ready made players for next year in the defense
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Nate Taylor seems to think we'll keep Ford and release Houston.
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Nate Taylor seems to think we'll keep Ford and release Houston.
I could see that
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Mellinger thinks they’ll try and restructure with Houston

We’ll see. Either way, it’s not ideal to have all this in this offseason. They’re now in their 2 year window where they’ve gotta push but they can’t because of some of these contracts

I’d say you’ve gotta make some tough decisions or frankly, they need to get lucky
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