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Old 03-17-2017, 11:11 AM  
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Are We Looking at the Chiefs QB Situation Incorrectly
First of all, let me say that I hate being the guy bringing this up, BUT I fear that we're all looking at our QBOTF issue incorrectly. Sadly, the question isn't about which QB we should draft, but rather (and I hate me for suggesting this), what veteran QB will be available in the next 2-3 years to replace Alex?

I'm basing this solely on our stinking franchise DNA. If true to form, the odds of DRAFTING a QB that has a decent chance to evolve into being The Guy are virtually zero. So, we're left to figure out what veteran guy will be available as a replacement for Smith.

Yeah, I know this sucks, but the facts of the matter are that the Chiefs simply do not expend high draft picks on QBs......at least not for the past 34 stinking years.

Ergo, the question isn't about drafting Mahomes, Watson, Webb, Trubisky, etc., the question is whether we go after a vet QB like Cousins, Kaepernick, etc. (I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.)

Man, when you look at it from this angle, the prospects of finding a vet QB who could take us to the Promised Land appear staggeringly horrible.

One only hopes that somehow, someway, we are able to shed our heritage and try a "new" approach in addressing our QB position...can you say "Expend a high draft choice for an untried, unproven but oh so exciting QB prospect."

Hope springs eternal......
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Old 03-18-2017, 09:19 PM   #136
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Would you trade Alex Smith for Cleveland's 1st round pick next year?

Even if we have to add a pick of our own to go along with it?


We gave two 2nds and when trading a draft pick each year delayed is supposed to lower the value of the pick by one round.

Alex Smith and our 3rd pick this year for Cleveland's 1st rounder?

I know people will shred it just like they try to shred every post about everything but a trade something like that.

We sign a Chase Daniel or something to start for us this year. We end up with 2 first round picks next year in a decent QB draft.

at least it's a plan, a plan i doubt we have now.


Doesn't matter, Reid doesn't want a young QB. We are just wasting time hoping for something that isn't going to happen.
Yes, absolutely. I would do that so fast your head would spin.

Good idea
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Old 03-18-2017, 09:20 PM   #137
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Chase Daniel? Brodie Croyle? I don't really give a shit. I don't even care if Smith starts in 2018.

We're the Chiefs. We were cowards during King Carl and never drafted a QB when we sucked. After Carl we never sucked QUITE enough or in the right year to get the RIGHT guy.

So we'll have to manufacture our own chances. This is the best way I know how. Take the guy with the most promise who stands a decent chance of clearing that bar given enough time and patience.

Try. Just ****ing try to draft a QB for ****'s sake.
Exactly we will have to manufacture that opportunity. Yes there are several ways to do that, but standing pat and filling other needs and having a great team that can put us oh so close despite the QB is not going to make it easier to manufacture that ability.
We don't need to draft one just to draft one either try to get the right one which is generally going to be found in the top part of the 1st as history has shown. Brady, Wilson are outliers they are not the norm. It is like find the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow or getting struck by lighting. I would rather hedge my bets to insure I had the ability to get a damn good one.
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Old 03-18-2017, 09:20 PM   #138
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has any team 'won' anything after giving up a bevy of picks for top draft rights?

you could argue even an andrew luck coming out of college would not have been that worthy, indy 'lucked' out that year. philly, washington to name a couple...

who else, i can't recall, gave up lots of picks and they didn't fare any better?

or who did give up a shit ton of picks and won big?
So do nothing then.

Just sit here and pray that a miracle happens and the league lets an elite QB fall into our laps in the middle of the 1st round? Then Pray that Reid even drafts him instead of trading down.


All the people demanding we take a chance to draft a QB suddenly don't want to risk anything to get a GOOD one.
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Old 03-18-2017, 09:21 PM   #139
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Exactly we will have to manufacture that opportunity. Yes there are several ways to do that, but standing pat and filling other needs and having a great team that can put us oh so close despite the QB is not going to make it easier to manufacture that ability.
We don't need to draft one just to draft one either try to get the right one which is generally going to be found in the top part of the 1st as history has shown. Brady, Wilson are outliers they are not the norm. It is like find the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow or getting struck by lighting. I would rather hedge my bets to insure I had the ability to get a damn good one.
So you can't trade future picks? Good to know
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Old 03-18-2017, 09:23 PM   #140
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Can you trade future picks? If they can't get to a qb I would rather get a player that helps us win games now.

Like I said all those guys may not come out next year
Uh, yeah you know like the Redskins did with the Rams and many, many, many other teams have always done over the years.????? I am sure you knew this so that is the reason for the ??????
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So do nothing then.

Just sit here and pray that a miracle happens and the league lets an elite QB fall into our laps in the middle of the 1st round? Then Pray that Reid even drafts him instead of trading down.


All the people demanding we take a chance to draft a QB suddenly don't want to risk anything to get a GOOD one.
I would think hard about kelce for Cleveland's first next year. **** maybe Justin Houston too.
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So you can't trade future picks? Good to know
What the **** are you talking about?
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Uh, yeah you know like the Redskins did with the Rams and many, many, many other teams have always done over the years.????? I am sure you knew this so that is the reason for the ??????
What's the difference? Trade picks this year for next year or trade next year using a pick from.the next year?

You are still using the same currency to get there, bud.
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So do nothing then.

Just sit here and pray that a miracle happens and the league lets an elite QB fall into our laps in the middle of the 1st round? Then Pray that Reid even drafts him instead of trading down.


All the people demanding we take a chance to draft a QB suddenly don't want to risk anything to get a GOOD one.
Yeah no shit WTF
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What the **** are you talking about?
You are acting like it's not an option.

It's actually no different than what you are suggesting
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I would think hard about kelce for Cleveland's first next year. **** maybe Justin Houston too.
I'd trade Houston but not Kelce

Few players i want to keep

Kelce
Hill
Jones

I think anyone else is up for trade if it gets us a real chance at a QB.
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I'd trade Houston but not Kelce

Few players i want to keep

Kelce
Hill
Jones

I think anyone else is up for trade if it gets us a real chance at a QB.
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I would think hard about kelce for Cleveland's first next year. **** maybe Justin Houston too.
I would gladly part with next year's first for Houston. Kelce is too valuable to the offense at this point.
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ALEX HAS TO BE THE CHIEFS QB THIS YEAR! like it or not.

you cannot **** up team chemistry after going 12-4. the only thing is to hope he stinks the place up so bad, the backup has to go in, then they draft in 2018. not that they wont draft a qb again this year, but...

you need a good reason to remove a qb like alex.

and the chiefs have no good reason for this upcoming season.
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So you can't trade future picks? Good to know
you defo can trade future picks. they do it all the time.
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