Poop Let's talk about "true fans" - Page 16

**DaFace** · 09:37 AM

Marcellus's thread was clearly a lot of attention whoring, but when it comes down to it, he has a point. The word "true fan" has become a catch-all for anyone who doesn't agree with a person on here about XXX player or XXX move that the Chiefs have made.

The issue I have with it is that it's increasingly become a straw man insult that doesn't even make sense. Discussion around here lately reminds me of discussions in D.C. where every issue has to be black and white and anyone who doesn't agree with you is an idiot. The reality is that there are opinions all over the spectrum and that nothing is ever black and white. I'd think there are at least five different categories of Chiefs fans these days:

1 - True "homers" who will cheer for the team and applaud every move they make unconditionally. These types almost don't even exist on ChiefsPlanet (though people like to act like they do). These are only a small portion of the Chiefs fanbase, and they look like this.

2 - Optimists who will always cheer for the Chiefs, but have a sense of realism about it. They probably cheered Cassel for the first few years, but reluctantly joined the SOC bandwagon last year when it was clear that there was just no hope in saving the team under Cassel.

3 - Fans who try to keep a balanced approach. They don't get too excited about drafting a RT at #1 or trading for Alex Smith, but they believe that it's likely the team will at least be improved this year if not dramatically so. Their approach is a "wait and see" reaction, though they'll be quick to criticize if things don't work out.

4 - Pessimists who are skeptical that the Chiefs are going to be competitive any time soon, but who do try and give the team some benefit of the doubt under the new leadership. They're probably not happy about Alex Smith being our QB, but are grudgingly willing to see what he can do.

5 - Total naysayers who have had it with the team for the past 40 years and will refuse to be optimistic until the Chiefs find some real success (playoff wins at a minimum, and Super Bowl contention ideally). They believe that the front office should be constantly scrutinized given that their predecessors were given a long leash and screwed it all up.

Anyway, I thought it would be interesting to see where people would put themselves on the spectrum. It seems like most threads these days are battles between 5's and 1's, but I'd bet that those types are actually pretty rare around here. My dream would be that we can one day have discussions that are dominated by 2's, 3's, and 4's, but who knows if that can ever happen until the Chiefs start showing success.

Discus.

Chief Roundup · 08-02-2013, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM

I would rather talk about "Lil Chiefys"

Maybe you and the one that calls him self something Sweet should get a room together. just sayin

**BigMeatballDave** · 08-02-2013, 07:18 PM

WTF does that tattoo have to do with being a 'True Fan'?

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-02-2013, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Maybe you and the one that calls him self something Sweet should get a room together. just sayin

It is a quality term and will be part of the lexicon.

**BigMeatballDave** · 08-02-2013, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM

It is a quality term and will be part of the lexicon.

I wish a mod would change Hates user to Lil Chiefy.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-02-2013, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrueFanDave

I wish a mod would change Hates user to Lil Chiefy.

That would be funny.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-02-2013, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM

It is a quality term and will be part of the lexicon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrueFanDave

I wish a mod would change Hates user to Lil Chiefy.

I am going to WIN this battle.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-02-2013, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

I am going to WIN this battle.

You're a ****ing idiot.

People don't purchase season tickets or go to sports bars or buy the NFL Sunday Ticket because they "hate" the team.

You're a bored, inane and lame poster that posts on a Chiefs forum, yet hates anything and everything they do.

In short, you're a loser. And a troll.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-02-2013, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're a ****ing idiot.

People don't purchase season tickets or go to sports bars or buy the NFL Sunday Ticket because they "hate" the team.

You're a bored, inane and lame poster that posts on a Chiefs forum, yet hates anything and everything they do.

In short, you're a loser. And a troll.

Said the Official "Douche of the Year".
Your PMS levels seem unusually high this evening. Oh well, not my problem.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-02-2013, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Said the Official "Douche of the Year".
Your PMS levels seem unusually high this evening. Oh well, not my problem.

As many have stated, you add nothing to this forum.

You're verbal diarrhea.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-02-2013, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

I am going to WIN this battle.

Maybe a list of known and suspected lil chiefys. Kind of like pawn's traitor and cowards list.

**DaFace** · 08-02-2013, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're a ****ing idiot.

People don't purchase season tickets or go to sports bars or buy the NFL Sunday Ticket because they "hate" the team.

You're a bored, inane and lame poster that posts on a Chiefs forum, yet hates anything and everything they do.

In short, you're a loser. And a troll.

Yup.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-02-2013, 09:22 PM

Is sweet a closet donco fan?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-02-2013, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM

Maybe a list of known and suspected lil chiefys. Kind of like pawn's traitor and cowards list.

It's a very short list, included in the original, award-winning thread. It may however grow over the coming season.

MagicHef · 08-02-2013, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrueFanDave

I wish a mod would change Hates user to Lil Chiefy.

That will be his name as soon as Denver wins the division.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-02-2013, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

It's a very short list, included in the original, award-winning thread. It may however grow over the coming season.

More proof that you're a worthless prick

View Poll Results: How would you classify yourself?
1 - Homer	7	2.44%
2 - Optimist	85	29.62%
3 - Balanced	116	40.42%
4 - Pessimist	67	23.34%
5 - Naysayer	8	2.79%
Generic Alternate Zresponse	4	1.39%
Voters: 287. You may not vote on this poll

05-03-2013, 09:30 AM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $2146899	Let's talk about "true fans" Marcellus's thread was clearly a lot of attention whoring, but when it comes down to it, he has a point. The word "true fan" has become a catch-all for anyone who doesn't agree with a person on here about XXX player or XXX move that the Chiefs have made. The issue I have with it is that it's increasingly become a straw man insult that doesn't even make sense. Discussion around here lately reminds me of discussions in D.C. where every issue has to be black and white and anyone who doesn't agree with you is an idiot. The reality is that there are opinions all over the spectrum and that nothing is ever black and white. I'd think there are at least five different categories of Chiefs fans these days: 1 - True "homers" who will cheer for the team and applaud every move they make unconditionally. These types almost don't even exist on ChiefsPlanet (though people like to act like they do). These are only a small portion of the Chiefs fanbase, and they look like this. 2 - Optimists who will always cheer for the Chiefs, but have a sense of realism about it. They probably cheered Cassel for the first few years, but reluctantly joined the SOC bandwagon last year when it was clear that there was just no hope in saving the team under Cassel. 3 - Fans who try to keep a balanced approach. They don't get too excited about drafting a RT at #1 or trading for Alex Smith, but they believe that it's likely the team will at least be improved this year if not dramatically so. Their approach is a "wait and see" reaction, though they'll be quick to criticize if things don't work out. 4 - Pessimists who are skeptical that the Chiefs are going to be competitive any time soon, but who do try and give the team some benefit of the doubt under the new leadership. They're probably not happy about Alex Smith being our QB, but are grudgingly willing to see what he can do. 5 - Total naysayers who have had it with the team for the past 40 years and will refuse to be optimistic until the Chiefs find some real success (playoff wins at a minimum, and Super Bowl contention ideally). They believe that the front office should be constantly scrutinized given that their predecessors were given a long leash and screwed it all up. Anyway, I thought it would be interesting to see where people would put themselves on the spectrum. It seems like most threads these days are battles between 5's and 1's, but I'd bet that those types are actually pretty rare around here. My dream would be that we can one day have discussions that are dominated by 2's, 3's, and 4's, but who knows if that can ever happen until the Chiefs start showing success. Discus. Last edited by DaFace; 05-03-2013 at 09:37 AM..
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