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Old 04-28-2017, 07:13 PM  
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Old 05-10-2018, 11:57 AM   #436
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Yep. He's never done a single damn thing noteworthy in the playoffs.
Lol, of all the players you guys could pick on, you chose Houston this time. Who's next, Eric Berry?
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Old 05-10-2018, 12:02 PM   #437
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Berry and Houston need to step their games up in 2018, no question.

The way they are used goes a long way towards doing that.
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Old 05-10-2018, 12:06 PM   #438
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Elite players help carry a team in the post season. That is not Houston thus far in his career.
A stupid post from one of the biggest idiots on CP. All you do is post negative/uninsightful shit. You’re worthless.
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Old 05-10-2018, 12:32 PM   #439
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Yep. He's never done a single damn thing noteworthy in the playoffs.
Von Miller had a HOF on the other side of him and good interior rushers in 2015.

Justin Houston had Frank ****ing Zombo, the corpse of Tamba Hali and Chris Jones for half a game.
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Old 05-10-2018, 12:38 PM   #440
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Elite players help carry a team in the post season. That is not Houston thus far in his career.
Breaking news from Chiefnj: Tony Gonzalez, Dan Marino, Barry Sanders, JJ Watt, Ladainian Tomlinson- not a single one of them elite!
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Old 05-21-2018, 09:24 PM   #441
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Hes an elite pass rusher though too.
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Justin Houston, despite his amazing pass rushing abilities, was not called upon to be a pure pass rusher this year like nearly all elite 3-4 outside linebackers are. Instead, he was required to be much more versatile. He rushed the passer on 76.7% of his snaps, bringing his season total to 412. In those 412 pass rushes, he pressured the QB 54 times, 11th most in the NFL. Everyone above him had a higher percentage of pass rush snaps, with all but three of them over 90%. If we use that 90% number, which is on the lower end of the averages when it comes to elite 3-4 OLBs, and apply it to Houston’s 2017 season, he’d have had 64 pressures, sliding him up to 6th in the NFL.

Now those pass rushing numbers look a little better don’t they? But wait a second. Just because he’s not pass rushing doesn’t mean he’s a good pass defender does it? Well, of those 125 times he was asked to drop into coverage, he allowed 11 receptions for 133 yards and 0 TDs. I’d say that’s pretty solid for a premier pass rusher in the NFL.

Just in case you were wondering about Houston’s run stopping ability, his 31 stops tied him for second in the league among 3-4 outside linebackers. So if anyone was thinking maybe he’s a passing down specialist, think again.

On the surface, you might look at volume pass rushing numbers to judge Houston’s season. It would be an honest mistake considering his history and what the typical 3-4 OLB is asked to do. However, if you do that, you’ll miss the entire picture. He was asked to do much more than pass rush in 2017, and he did it well. Houston’s elite versatility and performance in all three elements of a linebacker’s game (pass rushing, coverage, and run stopping) have landed him a spot at number 79 on our list.
He's worth what we pay him.
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Old 05-21-2018, 09:43 PM   #442
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He's worth what we pay him.
I’ve always thought of Houston as a complete linebacker.
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Old 05-21-2018, 09:58 PM   #443
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He's worth what we pay him.
Agreed, it's not his fault his coordinator is utilizing him wrong... There's a reason he posted a single season sack record (for KC) and "buttons" as someone else on this site has anointed him has been absolutely horrid at developing anything on the other side of Houston...
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Old 05-22-2018, 05:26 AM   #444
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Old 05-22-2018, 08:32 AM   #445
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Berry and Houston need to step their games up in 2018, no question.

The way they are used goes a long way towards doing that.
Berry was playing well before the inj. That's really the only concern I have is whether or not he's gonna be the same player.

Houston on the other hand I'm afraid is past his prime. Gone are the days of 14-15 sack seasons. I'll agree he needs to step up his game, and he's a solid run defender, but he's being paid $100M to sack the QB. And he's not doing that at the level the Chiefs need to him to be at. Chiefs are just gonna be stuck in that contract for the foreseeable future. And I don't expect Ford, even in a contract yr, to really make up for Houston's lack of pressure.

Will Tanoh Kpass show anything this yr? Doubtful, but it'd be a nice surprise. Chiefs need something like that to happen, because I think overall their pass D is gonna be in some major trouble. Chiefs may have to score 30+ ppg to hang in games.
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Old 05-22-2018, 08:36 AM   #446
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Old 06-21-2018, 03:57 AM   #447
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Am I the only one who expects absolutely nothing from this guy.

I have seen players who needed time to adjust to the game put it all together, but i just feel like we missed on this one...
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Am I the only one who expects absolutely nothing from this guy.

I have seen players who needed time to adjust to the game put it all together, but i just feel like we missed on this one...
I don't expect anything. He looks nothing like an OLB. I don't see him being able to bend around the edge and getting to the QB.
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Old 06-21-2018, 05:09 AM   #449
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I expect Kpassagnon to be good. He was always a developmental prospect and I absolutely trust Dorsey when it comes to drafting.

But really, we should just be hoping that two out Ford, Speaks and Kpassagnon can be good moving forward. And I expect little from Ford.
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Berry was playing well before the inj. That's really the only concern I have is whether or not he's gonna be the same player.

Houston on the other hand I'm afraid is past his prime. Gone are the days of 14-15 sack seasons. I'll agree he needs to step up his game, and he's a solid run defender, but he's being paid $100M to sack the QB. And he's not doing that at the level the Chiefs need to him to be at. Chiefs are just gonna be stuck in that contract for the foreseeable future. And I don't expect Ford, even in a contract yr, to really make up for Houston's lack of pressure.

Will Tanoh Kpass show anything this yr? Doubtful, but it'd be a nice surprise. Chiefs need something like that to happen, because I think overall their pass D is gonna be in some major trouble. Chiefs may have to score 30+ ppg to hang in games.
Houston hasn't been used by Sutton correctly the past couple years. Hopefully this year he's gettin after the QB. It sounds like thats a priority this year.
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