Royals Reactions to hearing the Giants are starting Vogelsong over Bumgarner tonight? - Page 2

Hootie · 10-25-2014, 10:30 AM

Mine?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Yours?

Simply Red · 10-25-2014, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru

You do remember 1985 right? 3-1 isn't safe.

You're absolutely correct - let's not get ahead of ourselves - I will be comfortable watching the remainder of the series, if they beat them tonight, let's just leave it there.

Simply Red · 10-25-2014, 10:58 AM

I'd like to add to the comments about Davis -

Not only does this guy have that nasty cutter. He has mound presence, I think that's overlooked and not talked about enough. There's certainly something to it that'll never show up on the stat sheets. He reminds me (at least somewhat) of Craig Kimbrel & I realize they're not the same 'situational pitchers.'

There is something to this guy that makes hitters guess and practically fear his delivery. Love this dude. Wish the Braves had him to set up Kimbrel, but we need another stick, before addressing any late relievers.

Hootie · 10-25-2014, 11:01 AM

I was telling my baseball buddies last night who don't get a chance to watch the Royals about Davis...

It's the fact he has 3 5 STAR PITCHES that he throws for strikes whenever he wants to...

Hitters have no idea. They have to respect his 97 MPH 4 seamer...but know that at any point during the at bat on any count he could throw his breaking ball or his cutter...

and it's unhittable

every hitter goes up there and has to guess...every swing is a guess swing...and thus every swing turns into a very defensive swing

and it's unhittable

It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. He is the most unhittable reliever I've seen in my life.

DanT · 10-25-2014, 11:01 AM

We're getting some light rain now in Davis, about 80 miles from AT&T Park. I hope the rain doesn't delay the start of the game or Bochy's choice of starters. Vogelsong is a good pitcher, but I think the Royals would have a better chance against him than against a short-rested Bumgarner.

Hootie · 10-25-2014, 11:03 AM

we're gonna tear Vogelsong apart

6-2 Royals tonight

milkman · 10-25-2014, 11:03 AM

Hootie, while doing the teanage girl thing he does by overdramatizing everything, is right.

BTW, can we change his user name to Jan Brady?

DanT · 10-25-2014, 11:03 AM

I've been telling my buddies at the coffee shop about Wade Davis all year. They're mostly Giants fans. It's fun having them realize what I was talking about. He's just incredible. He makes me laugh his pitches are so ridiculously filthy.

Eleazar · 10-25-2014, 11:04 AM

Maybe starting a pitcher who is rested in Vogelsong, a pitcher the Royals have never seen, is better than starting Buttgardener on short rest. This would be the third time the Royals have seen him in two months and if he weren't rested and gave up a bunch of runs, the Series would be over for them.

The Royals can't win the Series tonight. If Vogelsong could get a win, they have their ace going in the next game, all of a sudden Bochy could be up 3-2. If Vogelsong loses then they have their ace tomorrow to try to get back to within a game.

They are counting on Bumgardner for a win either way, may as well put him in the best position to get it.

Having Vogelsong against Vargas instead of Shields or Ventura is probably a better matchup for them anyway

It's not stupid, maybe not what I would do, but you can see where Bochy is coming from.

Eleazar · 10-25-2014, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Hootie, while doing the teanage girl thing he does by overdramatizing everything, is right.

BTW, can we change his user name to Jan Brady?

Doing the teenage girl thing or doing teenage girls?

KevB · 10-25-2014, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I had a little get together at my apartment last night so I couldn't post on CP during the game, and we drank copious amounts of alcohol...

but let's just say

I was a happy little panda bear.

I jinxed the **** out of us during the Davis inning telling my casual baseball fan buddies I had a better chance of getting murdered right then and there then Davis giving up a run in that inning.

I prevailed.

He's so nasty...he should be the guy coming in during jams in the 6th inning, then pitching the 7th, and giving Herrera the clean inning but whatever. They're all beasts.

I've thought the same, but Yost actually said last night that Herrera has been thrust into the multi-inning role because his arm bounces back better than Davis'. Interesting, but that is a reasonable explanation.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-25-2014, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru

You do remember 1985 right? 3-1 isn't safe.

Toronto and St. Louis didn't have Cyborgs.

**Rausch** · 10-25-2014, 11:08 AM

KC will be at home to finish the series.

This is a good thing...

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-25-2014, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

KC will be at home to finish the series.

This is a good thing...

I don't want SF to win again and risk them gaining any momentum.

I want to finish them off Sunday.

ChiefsCountry · 10-25-2014, 11:14 AM

I don't get all of this thinking that MadBum is Bob Gibson/Sandy Kofaux/Cy Young all wrapped into one. We beat him in Kansas City in the regular season. Had 7 hits against him in that one. In game 1, we were getting good contact on his stuff all night.

Simply Red · 10-25-2014, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

I don't want SF to win again and risk them gaining any momentum.

I want to finish them off Sunday.

Don't look ahead Dave,

Let them win tonight first, bud. Let's hope they come out focused.

10-25-2014, 10:30 AM
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Reactions to hearing the Giants are starting Vogelsong over Bumgarner tonight? Mine? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Yours?
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10-25-2014, 10:58 AM	#17
Simply Red You Sweetie! Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2021206219 VARSITY	I'd like to add to the comments about Davis - Not only does this guy have that nasty cutter. He has mound presence, I think that's overlooked and not talked about enough. There's certainly something to it that'll never show up on the stat sheets. He reminds me (at least somewhat) of Craig Kimbrel & I realize they're not the same 'situational pitchers.' There is something to this guy that makes hitters guess and practically fear his delivery. Love this dude. Wish the Braves had him to set up Kimbrel, but we need another stick, before addressing any late relievers.
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10-25-2014, 11:01 AM	#18
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I was telling my baseball buddies last night who don't get a chance to watch the Royals about Davis... It's the fact he has 3 5 STAR PITCHES that he throws for strikes whenever he wants to... Hitters have no idea. They have to respect his 97 MPH 4 seamer...but know that at any point during the at bat on any count he could throw his breaking ball or his cutter... and it's unhittable every hitter goes up there and has to guess...every swing is a guess swing...and thus every swing turns into a very defensive swing and it's unhittable It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. He is the most unhittable reliever I've seen in my life.
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10-25-2014, 11:01 AM	#19
DanT Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Davis, CA Casino cash: $4541711	We're getting some light rain now in Davis, about 80 miles from AT&T Park. I hope the rain doesn't delay the start of the game or Bochy's choice of starters. Vogelsong is a good pitcher, but I think the Royals would have a better chance against him than against a short-rested Bumgarner.
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10-25-2014, 11:03 AM	#20
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	we're gonna tear Vogelsong apart 6-2 Royals tonight
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10-25-2014, 11:03 AM	#21
milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	Hootie, while doing the teanage girl thing he does by overdramatizing everything, is right. BTW, can we change his user name to Jan Brady? __________________
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10-25-2014, 11:04 AM	#23
Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	Maybe starting a pitcher who is rested in Vogelsong, a pitcher the Royals have never seen, is better than starting Buttgardener on short rest. This would be the third time the Royals have seen him in two months and if he weren't rested and gave up a bunch of runs, the Series would be over for them. The Royals can't win the Series tonight. If Vogelsong could get a win, they have their ace going in the next game, all of a sudden Bochy could be up 3-2. If Vogelsong loses then they have their ace tomorrow to try to get back to within a game. They are counting on Bumgardner for a win either way, may as well put him in the best position to get it. Having Vogelsong against Vargas instead of Shields or Ventura is probably a better matchup for them anyway It's not stupid, maybe not what I would do, but you can see where Bochy is coming from.
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10-25-2014, 11:14 AM	#29
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $2368752	I don't get all of this thinking that MadBum is Bob Gibson/Sandy Kofaux/Cy Young all wrapped into one. We beat him in Kansas City in the regular season. Had 7 hits against him in that one. In game 1, we were getting good contact on his stuff all night.
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