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Old 04-17-2013, 09:25 AM  
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Kansas Governor Brownback signs 2nd Amendment Protection Act into law

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Any act, law, treaty, order, rule or regulation of the government of the United States which violates the second amendment to the constitution of the United States is null, void and unenforceable in the state of Kansas.

The second amendment to the constitution of the United States reserves to the people, individually, the right to keep and bear arms as that right was understood at the time that Kansas was admitted to statehood in 1861, and the guaranty of that right is a matter of contract between the state and people of Kansas and the United States as of the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Kansas in 1859 and the United States in 1861.
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Old 04-19-2013, 06:26 AM   #76
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It's not worth going over because you are trying to make a historical and political discussion about race.
It's not worth going over because your understanding of the history is completely wrapped up in a limited federal government ideology. I don't believe you're interested an objective view of the causes of the Civil War, so I'm not interested in pretending to have an objective discussion about it. Rather than get angry about it, I'm just going to no longer engage in a discussion with you about it. I hope you understand.
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Old 04-19-2013, 02:10 PM   #77
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Ha, yeah, that is stupid. I was not aware of that 1986 rule until you pointed it out here. Hey, you know what? I learned something today.
Maybe I should go for an M60 instead at least it would be listed in the registry making it legal to own.
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Old 04-19-2013, 02:26 PM   #78
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The decision to secede was made in the state legislatures. The best way to determine the reason for the decision would be to read what the legislators said during the debate. Historians say that the issue of slavery was far and away the major factor, in the debates in the states that seceded before Lincoln's inaugauration. Perhaps the effect of the Fort Sumter battle was to make the next 4 states to expand their rationale when debating the decision to secede, but Slavery was still the biggest reason cited by the people that voted for it.

The Slavery controversy was the reason for the Civil War and the election of Lincoln as the first Republican president was the triggering event for secession. The seceding states did not even let the newly elected President and Congress sit before seceding.

When the Southerners tried to muscle out Federal troops from military installations in their states, that is when the war began.

So it was Slavery Controversy, 1860 Election, Seceding states aggressive action against Federal troops, and then the North was willing to fight to preserve the Union.
You must be talking about the Kansas-Nebraska act of 1856 that led to the caning of Charles Sumner. It was a major issue about the role of slaves in westward expansion. It was an issue only because slavery was slowly dying in America and Europe thus becoming a national issue with expansion into US territories. But, the start of the Civil War started over a number of states rights issues going back to the origins of the nation. To boil it down to just slavery does not do justice to the issues of the day nor honor our national heroes such as Fredrick Douglas and Abraham Lincoln that lived by moral principle and honor.
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Old 04-19-2013, 02:58 PM   #79
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Old 04-19-2013, 03:23 PM   #80
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You must be talking about the Kansas-Nebraska act of 1856 that led to the caning of Charles Sumner. It was a major issue about the role of slaves in westward expansion. It was an issue only because slavery was slowly dying in America and Europe thus becoming a national issue with expansion into US territories. But, the start of the Civil War started over a number of states rights issues going back to the origins of the nation. To boil it down to just slavery does not do justice to the issues of the day nor honor our national heroes such as Fredrick Douglas and Abraham Lincoln that lived by moral principle and honor.
IMO, the fact that the southern states decided to secede before Lincoln was even inaugaurated and the new Congress went into session with Lincoln as President means that no final decisions were ever made on any of those other issues.

It is not as if certain laws passed on all of those issues and then they decided to secede, they left because the Party founded by the Abolitionists won the election so decisively in the Northern states.
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Old 04-19-2013, 07:54 PM   #81
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It's not worth going over because your understanding of the history is completely wrapped up in a limited federal government ideology. I don't believe you're interested an objective view of the causes of the Civil War, so I'm not interested in pretending to have an objective discussion about it. Rather than get angry about it, I'm just going to no longer engage in a discussion with you about it. I hope you understand.


The American System was a program designed to modernize American industry and provide tariffs to protect said industry (among other initiatives such as national bank and federally funded roads, canals ect.) led to what has become known as the Nullification Crisis.

South Carolina in the early 1830s convened a convention of delegates that declared the Tariff of 1828 (also known as the Tariff of Abominations) and the Tariff of 1828 as null and void. These tariffs had hit South Carolina especially hard.

The issue of state nullification was a state's right issue resulting in large part due to the Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions dating back to 1798. In response to South Carolina's nullification congress passed The Force Bill granting President Jackson the authority to use federal force (including military) to render compliance.




I have tried to explain repeatedly, as it has fallen upon deaf ears, that I am in no way minimizing the role slavery played the cause of the war. I am stating simply that it fell into the much broader category of state's rights, of which there were several issues encompassed. This was a war fought over the supremacy of the states versus the supremacy of the federal government. I am sorry but, you cannot sum up the cause for the split in one neat little package where one side was completely right and the other completely wrong. That simply is not how it happened.

Your insistence on refusing to acknowledge this very simple and obvious concept shows that the lack of objectivity on this issue is on your part. Your veiled ad hominem attacks of racism because I am simply stating a broader view to the situation further demonstrates your lack of objectivity. And in light of that, my feelings will be in no way hurt if you choose to follow through with your vow to no longer respond to me. Good evening.
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The state is going flat broke. This is just pandering to the idiots who voted for this moron.
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