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Old 07-14-2017, 01:52 PM   Topic Starter
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How the NFL is Cheating Rookies out of Millions of Dollars
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Not able to post on my phone but this a really interesting article.

What do you think? Should NFL players strike? If you were an NFL rookie, what would your mindset be?
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Old 07-14-2017, 02:03 PM   #2
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Old 07-14-2017, 02:08 PM   #3
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Some rookies get screwed, some get paid more than they deserve. It was worse the old way. I don't really want to go to a system where top drafted rookie could leave the team after say 3 years so I don't know how you fix it unless you do something like that. Like they said, if you perform at a high level, it'll work itself out. You'll rake it in in your second or third contract.
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Old 07-14-2017, 02:14 PM   #4
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NFL step on their players necks sometimes. If you blow up your first and second year you deserve more money.

On our team it's pretty clear Peters should make more money. Hill most likely will continue to be a bad ass and make jack shit compared to his value to the team. A 5th rounder makes shit. Has any 5th rounder ever scored as many tds as him their rookie year or was so explosive? I doubt it.
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Old 07-14-2017, 02:17 PM   #5
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NFL step on their players necks sometimes. If you blow up your first and second year you deserve more money.

On our team it's pretty clear Peters should make more money. Hill most likely will continue to be a bad ass and make jack shit compared to his value to the team. A 5th rounder makes shit. Has any 5th rounder ever scored as many tds as him their rookie year or was so explosive? I doubt it.
Don't know Hill's contract but as a 5th rounder, I'm sure it's not a 5 year deal. Probably 2 or 3 years but I don't know where to find that. He'll be raking it in soon enough. They should be in discussions with him now to lock him in early. They should lock Peters in during the 4th year before he hits that 5th year.
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Old 07-14-2017, 02:20 PM   #6
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Don't know Hill's contract but as a 5th rounder, I'm sure it's not a 5 year deal. Probably 2 or 3 years but I don't know where to find that. He'll be raking it in soon enough. They should be in discussions with him now to lock him in early. They should lock Peters in during the 4th year before he hits that 5th year.
All drafted players are signed to 4 year contracts.

Teams have the option to pick up the 5th year but it doesn't always happen.

Undrafted Free Agents sign 3 year deals but they're under club control for the 4th year, although a new contract has be put in place.

The Chiefs can extend Dee Ford this year or just allow him to play through his 5th year option (which was picked up).

The Chiefs can't extend Peters until the new league year begins in March, 2018, as he's only played 2 seasons in the league.
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Old 07-14-2017, 02:23 PM   #7
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All drafted players are signed to 4 year contracts.

Teams have the option to pick up the 5th year but it doesn't always happen.

Undrafted Free Agents sign 3 year deals but they're under club control for the 4th year, although a new contract has be put in place.

The Chiefs can extend Dee Ford this year or just allow him to play through his 5th year option (which was picked up).

The Chiefs can't extend Peters until the new league year begins in March, 2018, as he's only played 2 seasons in the league.
It's 4 years for all rounds? I knew it was that way for the first round, but for the 7th? 5th year option is only for first rounders I believe.
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Old 07-14-2017, 02:18 PM   #8
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53 footballs player on a roster.
12 basketball players on a roster.
24 baseball players on a roster.

Not hard one on the math who is going to get paid more.
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Old 07-14-2017, 02:21 PM   #9
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53 footballs player on a roster.
12 basketball players on a roster.
24 baseball players on a roster.

Not hard one on the math who is going to get paid more.
Then throw in the number of games they play that bring in that revenue stream. Yep, pretty easy to see the dividing line.
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53 footballs player on a roster.
12 basketball players on a roster.
24 baseball players on a roster.

Not hard one on the math who is going to get paid more.
NFL made over $8 billion more dollars in revenue last year. It's been over $20 billion the last 3 years.
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Old 07-14-2017, 05:06 PM   #11
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NFL made over $8 billion more dollars in revenue last year. It's been over $20 billion the last 3 years.
Players get half of that. Then divide it by 32. Then divide that by 53.

NBA makes 1/4 of that. 2.6 billion. Players get half. 1.3 bilion divide by 30. Then divide by 12.

Less players = more bucks for them. Not hard to see.
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I couldn't possibly care less if the players strike or if they are getting screwed. Love the game, but could not care less.

The players - for all of their talents - didn't actually create the sport. They are beneficiaries of decades of men who slogged away for a pittance compared to any rookie deal. They didn't build the business and simply want to reap the benefits. It's the Lavar Ball mentality.

If I sell a script to a studio, they will make a ton more money on a hit than I will. Guess why? Because they put up the capital a hundred years ago. They built the industry. They have the infrastructure and distribution and marketing capabilities. If the players think they can handle branding and litigation and negotiate with cities for stadiums and liaise with fanbases about parking and community integration and sponsors, they're ****ing crazy.

The bosses are the bosses and are paid as such. I'm a bleeding heart liberal socialist, but welcome to reality.
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I couldn't possibly care less if the players strike or if they are getting screwed. Love the game, but could not care less.

The players - for all of their talents - didn't actually create the sport. They are beneficiaries of decades of men who slogged away for a pittance compared to any rookie deal. They didn't build the business and simply want to reap the benefits. It's the Lavar Ball mentality.

If I sell a script to a studio, they will make a ton more money on a hit than I will. Guess why? Because they put up the capital a hundred years ago. They built the industry. They have the infrastructure and distribution and marketing capabilities. If the players think they can handle branding and litigation and negotiate with cities for stadiums and liaise with fanbases about parking and community integration and sponsors, they're ****ing crazy.

The bosses are the bosses and are paid as such. I'm a bleeding heart liberal socialist, but welcome to reality.
Have you sold a script before?
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Don't care about billionaires and millionaires money troubles.
This. It's just greed. They make millions regardless. They won the life lottery by being born in the USA. Fortunate to be born with the traits and talent to play the game. Fortunate to get paid millions. What more could you ask for in a world where in some places people don't have access to water? If they get hurt they weren't as fortunate as others. That's life.

Everyone wants more money. Most people have to earn it. Some inherit it but abunch of rich athletes who complain about wanting more money is distasteful. Complain about money to the soldier who makes nothing but risk everything.
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