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Old 02-02-2017, 02:52 PM  
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Why can't Tyreek be our #1 WR?

The more I'm sitting here thinking about how explosive and quick this guy is, I start questioning why can't he be our #1 WR?

Antonio Brown is probably smaller than he is.
NONE of the Chiefs WRs have better hands than he does.
NONE of the Chiefs WRs get more seperation.

I heard that there was some report that claimed TH has the most seperation of any WR in the league. It was statistical analysis by one of those Pro football statistician sites.

Why can't he be our #1? Anyone have a solid answer?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-in-separation

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Old 02-02-2017, 04:00 PM   #31
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This is stupid.

He drops a few passes a year. You're forgetting about all the insane athletic catches, or the ones where he has to get down on the ground like a goddamn cat to rescue a shitty Alex Smith throw for a 1st down.

He's not better than Maclin, but few receivers are. Then again, apparently Maclin is AIDS and dildos, so Kelce might just actually be the best pass catcher on the team.
Not stupid. Kelce has NOT made more acrobatic catches than he's bobbled or even dropped this year. If you look closely. he literally bobbles almost EVERY catch he makes. Scares the shit out of me everytime a ball is thrown his way. Is he a stud? HELL YES! So was TO with his dropsies too.

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Old 02-02-2017, 04:17 PM   #32
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I agree with him. He does make plays, and defenses are already starting to plan for him. He's had great plays, but he's also had plays where he ran the wrong route that caused some missed connections. Of course, if the QB was able to adjust for the situation....
which plays did he run the wrong route?
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Old 02-02-2017, 04:20 PM   #33
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Knowledge of the game plan. Lack of route ability
What does 'lack of route ability' mean?

Because Hill is already among the most crafty route runners we have on the team. Maclin and Kelce are better than him and that's it.

Hill's a shockingly good route runner. He hasn't learned the entire scheme yet so it limits their ability to use option routes with him but as far as straight up route running goes, he's going to be elite.

As to the OP - he can be and he will be in short order.
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Old 02-02-2017, 04:28 PM   #34
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What does 'lack of route ability' mean?

Because Hill is already among the most crafty route runners we have on the team. Maclin and Kelce are better than him and that's it.

Hill's a shockingly good route runner. He hasn't learned the entire scheme yet so it limits their ability to use option routes with him but as far as straight up route running goes, he's going to be elite.

As to the OP - he can be and he will be in short order.
but he runs the wrong route too often...
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Old 02-02-2017, 04:31 PM   #35
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Don't think he's as polished a route runner as he needs to be just yet.


This coming from the guy that said Hill would have zero impact in 2016.

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Old 02-02-2017, 04:38 PM   #36
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Because we don't have a #1 QB.
Yeah I hate to take the discussion in that direction... but yep.
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Old 02-02-2017, 04:43 PM   #37
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but he runs the wrong route too often...
Don't you expect that diminished significantly as the year progressed?

Another camp and he'll be fine in that regard. I figure that happens more often than we realize and he won't have to bat 1.000 to be within the margin of acceptable error.
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Old 02-02-2017, 04:48 PM   #38
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I was going off what a commentator said on a game once. He didn't have full knowledge that Reid wanted so that's why he's in limited packages. I can see his usage going up to 80+% next year.


He can be a better Julian Edelman if he becomes a great route runner. Imagine that speed plus precision route running combined.
Youre right, he can create separation running long routes but he is far from polished in the other aspects of his game. The commentators mentioned his inexperience as a route runner in that playoff game. Most of his production came in screens and deep balls. Maclin on the other hand in 2015 excelled in medium and short routes where the corner can still make a play on the ball

The person that stands to benefit the most with Tyreek on the field is Kelce as his YAC should increase with the safety concerned about giving up the deep ball
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Old 02-02-2017, 04:50 PM   #39
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Don't you expect that diminished significantly as the year progressed?

Another camp and he'll be fine in that regard. I figure that happens more often than we realize and he won't have to bat 1.000 to be within the margin of acceptable error.
Lol, i was being sarcastic.

I think he was fine this season, and I don't know how anyone knows what route he was supposed to be running

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Old 02-02-2017, 05:00 PM   #40
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The New England Patriots Wide Receivers:
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James White (5'10" 205 lbs)
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Chris Hogan (6'1" 210 lbs)
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Malcolm Mitchell (5'11" 200 lbs)
32 receptions-401 yards-4 touchdowns

Danny Amendola (5'11" 190 lbs)
23 receptions-243 yards-4 touchdowns

If it works for Belicheck and the Patriots' quick passing attack, why can't it work for KC? I'd like to see another quick/shifty receiver in the lineup.
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Old 02-02-2017, 05:05 PM   #41
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Because we don't have a #1 QB.
Just shut.the.****.up


How many times does this have to be posted.
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Old 02-02-2017, 05:07 PM   #42
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Still need to dump Maclin's sorry overpaid ass and draft/sign another WR.
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Old 02-02-2017, 05:08 PM   #43
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Danny Amendola (5'11" 190 lbs)
23 receptions-243 yards-4 touchdowns

If it works for Belicheck and the Patriots' quick passing attack, why can't it work for KC? I'd like to see another quick/shifty receiver in the lineup.
You forgot they have Tom ****ing Brady.

The Chiefs have a game managing dumpster fire at QB.
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Old 02-02-2017, 05:16 PM   #44
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How many times does this have to be posted.
As many as it takes
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Old 02-02-2017, 05:26 PM   #45
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The Maclin hate is way premature regarding those saying to cut him.. he wasn't his 2015 self, but factor in the injury, Kelce and Hill having bigger roles in the O, and Alex not targeting him as much and you see why the numbers dipped.

In 2015, he was the guy, and Kelce was #2. This year, Kelce exploded and Hill did too in many ways. Obviously Maclin's stats would lower, but it doesn't mean his skill did.
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