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Old 01-20-2017, 02:43 PM  
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Cowherd: Chiefs should give up the farm for Jimmy Garoppolo

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“All you Chiefs fans that are reluctant to give away Alex Smith and to give away Eric Berry and Dontari Poe and Travis Kelce to get a better quarterback, enjoy the next hail storm because you’re not going anywhere,” Cowherd said. “You’ve hit your ceiling. If you’re happy in a division with Derek Carr twice a year, Philip Rivers twice a year and John Elway twice a year, if you’e content with what you got at quarterback, okay. But we just saw what all those Pro Bowlers mean in the big game and you played it at home ... I’ve give up whatever it takes to get Jimmy Garoppolo.”
I can only imagine the epic shitstorm that would descend upon Arrowhead if we went after another Patriots backup quarterback who has looked good in a handful of games...
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Old 01-21-2017, 12:01 PM   #91
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"The best way to win is to trade for someone else's back up QB every time you want a new one."

Dude needs to stick his dick in a fan.

That's all anyone sees KC as... the dumping ground for their back up QB's.
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Old 01-21-2017, 12:04 PM   #92
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"The best way to win is to trade for someone else's back up QB every time you want a new one."

Dude needs to stick his dick in a fan.

That's all anyone sees KC as... the dumping ground for their back up QB's.
Well to be fair, that's exactly what the Chiefs have built themselves up to be, and exactly why we haven't been to a Super Bowl and won one.

I don't understand why this is such a hard concept to grasp for the management at 1 Arrowhead Drive.
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Old 01-21-2017, 12:07 PM   #93
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Well to be fair, that's exactly what the Chiefs have built themselves up to be, and exactly why we haven't been to a Super Bowl and won one.

I don't understand why this is such a hard concept to grasp for the management at 1 Arrowhead Drive.
Yeah man. I remember the past 25 years.

It's like the only people who are sick of it are KC fans. I cringe anytime trading for someone's back up QB is put on the table.

Especially when it's a back up to a HOFer on a great team who has limited playing time.
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Old 01-21-2017, 12:08 PM   #94
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Old 01-21-2017, 12:20 PM   #96
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I don't mind trading or signing a QB as long as it's the "right" QB.

People can complain all they want about the Chiefs not drafting and developing a QB that could take them to the promised land but in reality if they traded or signed for a veteran QB
that did that for them; this whole incompetence of them not drafting and developing a QB wouldn't really matter.

It's just a matter of finding the "right" guy regardless of "how" and that is something the Chiefs aren't good at. They could draft a QB in the either rounds 2,3,4 or whatever but if they find him then not drafting him a QB in the first round wouldn't matter.

Dial me in as the fan that just wants the Chiefs to get a very very good QB. Yeah im with a lot of you. I'm not sold on Alex Smith, Elvis Grbac, Matt Cassel and Steve Bono. I'm sick of those ****ers. I hope they just find a QB somewhere, somehow for once for **** sakes!
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Old 01-21-2017, 12:50 PM   #98
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I don't mind trading or signing a QB as long as it's the "right" QB.

People can complain all they want about the Chiefs not drafting and developing a QB that could take them to the promised land but in reality if they traded or signed for a veteran QB
that did that for them; this whole incompetence of them not drafting and developing a QB wouldn't really matter.
So your argument is that if the Chiefs only did what the Chifs CONSISTENTLY do better they'd be better off?

Really?...
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Old 01-21-2017, 01:24 PM   #99
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I don't mind trading or signing a QB as long as it's the "right" QB.

People can complain all they want about the Chiefs not drafting and developing a QB that could take them to the promised land but in reality if they traded or signed for a veteran QB
that did that for them; this whole incompetence of them not drafting and developing a QB wouldn't really matter.


It's just a matter of finding the "right" guy regardless of "how" and that is something the Chiefs aren't good at. They could draft a QB in the either rounds 2,3,4 or whatever but if they find him then not drafting him a QB in the first round wouldn't matter.

Dial me in as the fan that just wants the Chiefs to get a very very good QB. Yeah im with a lot of you. I'm not sold on Alex Smith, Elvis Grbac, Matt Cassel and Steve Bono. I'm sick of those ****ers. I hope they just find a QB somewhere, somehow for once for **** sakes!


We absolutely need to draft and develop a guy that can become a superstar at QB, considering that it really is the most important position on the field.

Not convinced? Well, take a gander at this -



Nobody has won shit after trading for somebody else's backup and expecting them to do for their new team what they couldn't do for their old team. And frankly, I'm over watching the Chiefs trying to make it work with other people's backups.

FFS, draft a quarterback. It's plainly obvious that's what needs to be done.
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Old 01-21-2017, 01:26 PM   #100
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So your argument is that if the Chiefs only did what the Chifs CONSISTENTLY do better they'd be better off?

Really?...
Not really! Well kind of. I'm glad you replied to me because you'll suck out an answer out of me. Imo, it really has to do with them being passive and lacking that sound overall judgement with respect to decision making for the QB position. I'm saying that it has to do more than their incompetence of not finding that QB through the draft.

Like when Drew Bree's hit the FA market, perfect time to go after a QB that could help your franchise win a ****ing bowl! Be proactive and sign the mother****er when you have a chance or at least compete for his services!! It's only matter of capitalizing at opportune times. But because this organization is so god damn passive (it's sickening), they fail to recognize opportunities when they are there. That's not surprising.

Instead what do they do? they kept a broken Trent Green and a backup QB in Damon Huard that was playing well at the time but was nothing more than just journeyman/2nd or 3rd string QB throughout his career.

Another scenario, Grbac/Gannon QB controversy. That I blame on Marty mainly.
But at the end of the day, this should've been an organizational decision with respect to who should've been the QB. Chiefs made a mistake by putting too much faith into Marty for making that decision for them and it cost them dearly.

One thing I do know, you never mess with a hot hand which Gannon was at the time when he replaced Grbac after he got hurt in the '97 season. If Chiefs opt to go with Gannon, they have a greater chance of beating the Broncos and getting to the Super Bowl that year.
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It's more than just a lack of drafting QB prospects over the years, it's also failing in other ways to address the QB position.
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Old 01-21-2017, 01:34 PM   #102
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GB won a SuperBowl with Favre. Did they draft him? No....They just happened to have good judgement with respect to the QB position, thus, they made the "right" trade for the "right" guy.
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The biggest mistake KC makes is believing they can turn someone else's trash into treasure.

The second biggest mistake they make is protecting the delicate psyche of that trash by not continually trying to upgrade the position.
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GB won a SuperBowl with Favre. Did they draft him? No....They just happened to have good judgement with respect to the QB position, thus, they made the "right" trade for the "right" guy.
I mean come on, Favre is obviously an outlier here. Plus, he was never a starter for Atlanta. Had they given him a chance, Green Bay may not have gotten a shot at him.

I stand by my comments.
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The biggest mistake KC makes is believing they can turn someone else's trash into treasure.

The second biggest mistake they make is protecting the delicate psyche of that trash by not continually trying to upgrade the position.
Man, truer words have never been spoken. From Bono and Grbac all the way to Smith, we have coddled every single guy we have brought in here to be "the guy". So frustrating.
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