Chiefs better get a New DB fast. Denver and Wes ?

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Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Wes Welker has agreed to terms with Denver Broncos.



Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Wes Welker lands a two-year, $12 million deal from the Broncos. Demaryius Thomas, Eric Decker, Wes Welker. Have fun, Peyton.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Jesus, you've gone back to this one.

Repeat this after me:

Wes Welker is more dangerous than Calvin Johnson, AJ Green, Julio Jones and Brandon Marshall.

Can you do that for me? Just type nothing more than that.

I need something really stupid for my signature and that should be an excellent quote.

Wes Welker is and has been the most dangerous and productive receiver in this league. He is not a possession receiver like Johnson, or Green, he is a slot receiver. He is small, and he gets wide open better than anyone in this league, and Tom Brady and the Patriots utilized that to the fullesct extent while Welker was there.

Because of this, they were able to eliminate the pass rush, created more first downs as an offense by comparison to your other receiver's teams did against common opponents, won more often, and put up more points.

It is because of Welker's skill of getting open, that Brady and that offense could do what it did against the pass rush, neutralizing pro bowlers and future hall of famers, so they could win games.

Calvin Johnson doesn't eliminate the pass rush, neither does AJ Green, Julio Jones, Roddy White, or Brandon Marshall.


You are closed minded, and thinking inside the box.

You think my claim is based on pure talent, it isn't. AJ Green is the best receiver in this league in terms of talent, period. Calvin is #2, Fitz is #3.

Those three can't touch Welker's skills at getting open in the slot to eliminate the pass rush.

Of course, you didn't think of it that way, because you don't think about the big picture.

People here are saying, "Oh, we just need to hit manning and hurt his neck to neutralize him and Welker", you won't get a chance to hit manning because he'll have already thrown the ball to Welker because he was wide open because you blitzed him and didn't cover Welker.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

That is very likely, and you'll see Welker post a modest 75 catch, 1100 yard season, and you'll have 3 receivers posting similar stats for their team.



I'm not reading through all of that to make a point you don't understand.

Wes Welker for the last 7 years has been the most productive receiver in this league, and the most dangerous.

He isn't the best, and he isn't the most gifted wide receiver ever. He is the most productive, and the most dangerous.

That's what I said, and the NFL's statistics back me up.

He is not a system receiver, and the statistics do NOT back you up on that claim.

"I overplayed the shit out of my hand, can't back up my mouth so I'm going to just repeat my idiocy"

Got it.

Your statistics don't back shit up, other than the fact that few WRs in the history of the NFL have had as many catchable balls fed to them over a 5 year period of time and that Welker, at his best, catches a roughly average number of them.

I understand your point - it's just really really stupid.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Dressen and Tamme can now take a back seat and that offense is going to run like 2004 Indy

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

"I overplayed the shit out of my hand, can't back up my mouth so I'm going to just repeat my idiocy"

Got it.

Your statistics don't back shit up, other than the fact that few WRs in the history of the NFL have had as many catchable balls fed to them over a 5 year period of time and that Welker, at his best, catches a roughly average number of them.

I understand your point - it's just really really stupid.

Read the post I just made that you didn't read.

Too soon junior.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

GOD YOU'RE A GURU OTWP

Christ, we're all guru's.

After watching this organization operate for the past 30 years, you learn how NOT to do things.

It doesn't take a goddamn nuclear physicist to realize that you don't win championships without drafting a developing a franchise QB and building a roster around him through the draft.

For whatever reason, this organization continues to repeat history, because they haven't learned from it.

[Hootie]

GURU

SIGN HIM UP

GIVE HIM A HIRE

HE'S AMAZING

[Nzoner]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Bittersweet.

A big FU to the Pats.

But we are ****ed....

Agreed the Chiefs could very well be ****ed but as for Denver winning it all they better hope to hell the road to the SB is either as a road team playing in domes and good weather cities or that Denver has a heatwave in January.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

Wow, Wes Welker isn't one of the best receievers of all time?

He's constantly and consistently in the record books for things Jerry Rice couldn't do, or, he beat out Jerry's records.

And now you say he's not even top 50 and maybe not even top 100?

Get out, go watch Soccer or something.

You should love Alex Smith, then. Evidently check-downs get you rock hard.

Because everyone knows that all receptions are created equal, regardless of era, YPC...anything. All that matters is the raw number of catches you have, even if you're just barely average at actually catching the ball when it's thrown to you.

Please - repeat your reception figures again. I didn't hear you the first time (and address them several times).

Go ahead and convince me that Wes Welker is a better WR than, say, John Stallworth.

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he would have traded a 7th for Boldin and signed Welker for league min

[jspchief]

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[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You should love Alex Smith, then. Evidently check-downs get you rock hard.

Because everyone knows that all receptions are created equal, regardless of era, YPC...anything. All that matters is the raw number of catches you have, even if you're just barely average at actually catching the ball when it's thrown to you.

Please - repeat your reception figures again. I didn't hear you the first time (and address them several times).

Go ahead and convince me that Wes Welker is a better WR than, say, John Stallworth.

Do you really think that Welker was being checked down to?

A vast majority of welker's no huddle receptions are plays designed to go to him.

Seriously, go watch a pats game, you're a ****ing tard.

[silver5liter]

meh, oh well. Im not scared of welker

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

Wes Welker is and has been the most dangerous and productive receiver in this league. He is not a possession receiver like Johnson, or Green, he is a slot receiver. He is small, and he gets wide open better than anyone in this league, and Tom Brady and the Patriots utilized that to the fullesct extent while Welker was there.

Because of this, they were able to eliminate the pass rush, created more first downs as an offense by comparison to your other receiver's teams did against common opponents, won more often, and put up more points.

It is because of Welker's skill of getting open, that Brady and that offense could do what it did against the pass rush, neutralizing pro bowlers and future hall of famers, so they could win games.

Calvin Johnson doesn't eliminate the pass rush, neither does AJ Green, Julio Jones, Roddy White, or Brandon Marshall.


You are closed minded, and thinking inside the box.

You think my claim is based on pure talent, it isn't. AJ Green is the best receiver in this league in terms of talent, period. Calvin is #2, Fitz is #3.

Those three can't touch Welker's skills at getting open in the slot to eliminate the pass rush.

Of course, you didn't think of it that way, because you don't think about the big picture.

People here are saying, "Oh, we just need to hit manning and hurt his neck to neutralize him and Welker", you won't get a chance to hit manning because he'll have already thrown the ball to Welker because he was wide open because you blitzed him and didn't cover Welker.

You're really going to argue that Wes Welker has a physical skill-set that no other WR in the league can duplicate?

His first step is good - it's not great. He gets open because the routes he runs are brilliantly designed, not because he's just a damn wizard with his feet.

And you're honestly going to try to argue that a slot WR eliminates the pass rush? Wake me when we're putting Tamba Hali or Justin Houston on the slot WR.

That's just an ass-backwards argument. If anyone eliminates the pass-rush in NE, it's Rob Gronkowski, who does occupy LBs. Wes Welker does little more than draw the attention of overmatched Nickle corners. In that regard, he's no different than any slot WR; even Steve Breaston in the slot was getting teams to take a LBer off the field and bring in a nickle DB.

But hey, I respect the attempt to spin your way clear of a bullshit statement.

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Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet

Makes sense. Kinda. If any of this made sense. RT @jeffphowe: Welker's $12 million is fully guaranteed.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

Do you really think that Welker was being checked down to?

A vast majority of welker's no huddle receptions are plays designed to go to him.

Seriously, go watch a pats game, you're a ****ing tard.

Of course they were designed to get to him. Just as pass after pass after pass was forced into him.

A check-down isn't any worse than a designed 7 yard dump.