Off Season Lets Talk Guns

[HonestChieffan]

Been a while since we had a guns n' ammo discussion.


Some of you are AR shooters Im sure. Im looking at a Colt 6920. Will be my first AR. Picked up a Glock this fall and really enjoy shooting it. Any feedback on that weapon?



Anyone else been in a buy/sell/trade mood with hardware?

Part 2: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=293623

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by frazod

I wish running down to Bilings was an option for me, but it isn't.

Because I know I'll be sitting on thousands of rounds in a couple of weeks, I haven't really bothered canvassing the area looking for 9mm ammo. However, every online shop I've checked is out and not taking orders, and if a large, previously well-stocked shooting range runs dry and says they don't know when they'll get more, it's gotta be a problem.

Oh I have no doubt. I wonder if there will be a point when shotgun shells will start running low. My guess would be if everything else runs dry, people will start loading up on that.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Oh I have no doubt. I wonder if there will be a point when shotgun shells will start running low. My guess would be if everything else runs dry, people will start loading up on that.

I don't know - I don't own any shotguns.

I guess one good thing is that it should be a lot easier to go shoot at the local range when nobody else has ammo. Assuming the local range can stay in business.

[A Salt Weapon]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Where are you at in AK? I need to make it up there again to slay some fish.

Southeast, plenty of fish round these parts. I try to eliminate them all each year, but they just keep coming back. It was a bad year for halibut, plenty of fish but they were all small. Only got 1 over 20#s this year.
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[Bwana]

Originally Posted by A Salt Weapon

Southeast, plenty of fish round these parts. I try to eliminate them all each year, but they just keep coming back. It was a bad year for halibut, plenty of fish but they were all small. Only got 1 over 20#s this year.
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Yeah that's what I hear. When I go after halibut, I base out of Homer.

[kepp]

Humorous commercial:

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[BigOlChiefsfan]

http://news.investors.com/politics-a...-purchases.htm

[R8RFAN]

Winchester Issues Recall for 5.56 Ammo
http://www.theoutdoorwire.com/story/...772fa074sgrheq

[Bwana]

Get that ammo (And other things) while you can.

Interesting status report from Valley Guns in West Virginia

Status of gun industry

Attention F.B. fans: to follow will be several IMPORTANT Info updates about the status of the gun industry currently, followed by an INVENTORY UPDATE: We traveled to Texas for Industry meetings concerning the shortages, here's what we were told.

Smith & Wesson: is running at Full capacity making 3000+ guns/day-mainly M&P pistols. They are unable to produce any more guns to help with the shortages.

RUGER: Plans to increase from 75% to 100% in the next 90 days.

FNH: Moving from 50% production to 75% by Feb 1st and 100% by March 1.
Remington-Maxed out!

Armalite: Maxed out.

DPMS: Can't get enough parts to produce any more product.

COLT: Production runs increasing weekly...bottle necked by Bolt carrier's.

LWRC: Making only black guns, running at full capacity...can't get enough gun quality steel to make barrels.

Springfield Armory: Only company who can meet demand but are running 30-45 days behind.

AMMO: Every caliber is now Allocated! We are looking at a nation wide shortage of all calibers over the next 9 months. All plants are producing as much ammo as possible w/ of 1 BILLION rounds produced weekly. Most is military followed by L.E. and civilians are third in line.

MAGPUL: is behind 1 MILLION mags, do not expect any large quantities of magpul anytime soon.

RELOADERS... ALL Remington, Winchester, CCI & Federal primers are going to ammo FIRST. There are no extra's for reloading purposes... it could be 6-9 months before things get caught up. Sorry for the bleak news, but now we know what to expect in the coming months. Stay tuned, we'll keep you posted...


Related commentary from Bob Owens:

They didn't know when they'd be getting anything back in stock, from magazines to rifles to pistols. Manufacturers were running full-bore, but couldn't come close to keeping up with market demand. It wasn't just the AR-15s, the AK-pattern rifles, the M1As, and the FALs that were sold out. It really hit me when I realized that the World War-era M1 Garands, M1 carbines, and Enfield 303s were gone, along with every last shell. Ubiquitous Mosin-Nagants-of which every gun store always seems to have 10-20-were gone. So was their ammo. Only a dust free space marked their passing. I've never seen anything like it.


http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2013/01/update-status-of-gun-industry.html

[LiveSteam]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Get that ammo (And other things) while you can.

Interesting status report from Valley Guns in West Virginia

Status of gun industry

Attention F.B. fans: to follow will be several IMPORTANT Info updates about the status of the gun industry currently, followed by an INVENTORY UPDATE: We traveled to Texas for Industry meetings concerning the shortages, here's what we were told.

Smith & Wesson: is running at Full capacity making 3000+ guns/day-mainly M&P pistols. They are unable to produce any more guns to help with the shortages.

RUGER: Plans to increase from 75% to 100% in the next 90 days.

FNH: Moving from 50% production to 75% by Feb 1st and 100% by March 1.
Remington-Maxed out!

Armalite: Maxed out.

DPMS: Can't get enough parts to produce any more product.

COLT: Production runs increasing weekly...bottle necked by Bolt carrier's.

LWRC: Making only black guns, running at full capacity...can't get enough gun quality steel to make barrels.

Springfield Armory: Only company who can meet demand but are running 30-45 days behind.

AMMO: Every caliber is now Allocated! We are looking at a nation wide shortage of all calibers over the next 9 months. All plants are producing as much ammo as possible w/ of 1 BILLION rounds produced weekly. Most is military followed by L.E. and civilians are third in line.

MAGPUL: is behind 1 MILLION mags, do not expect any large quantities of magpul anytime soon.

RELOADERS... ALL Remington, Winchester, CCI & Federal primers are going to ammo FIRST. There are no extra's for reloading purposes... it could be 6-9 months before things get caught up. Sorry for the bleak news, but now we know what to expect in the coming months. Stay tuned, we'll keep you posted...


Related commentary from Bob Owens:

They didn't know when they'd be getting anything back in stock, from magazines to rifles to pistols. Manufacturers were running full-bore, but couldn't come close to keeping up with market demand. It wasn't just the AR-15s, the AK-pattern rifles, the M1As, and the FALs that were sold out. It really hit me when I realized that the World War-era M1 Garands, M1 carbines, and Enfield 303s were gone, along with every last shell. Ubiquitous Mosin-Nagants-of which every gun store always seems to have 10-20-were gone. So was their ammo. Only a dust free space marked their passing. I've never seen anything like it.


http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2013/01/update-status-of-gun-industry.html

JFC

[notorious]

Time for some new companies to take a piece of the market. I have pondered purchasing a machine to make lowers and get a firearm manufacturing license.

I talked to a guy that sells lowers at $250 a pop, makes 30 a day, with a small amount of aluminum.

[Frazod]

I'm kind of wishing I'd picked up some sort of pistol ammo shooting carbine now, like the Kel Tec Sub 2000 or Beretta CX4 Storm. You won't find either of them now unless you go to some pound-me-in-the-ass auction. I'm sure as **** not paying $1500 for one of them.

[pr_capone]

Originally Posted by frazod

I'm kind of wishing I'd picked up some sort of pistol ammo shooting carbine now, like the Kel Tec Sub 2000 or Beretta CX4 Storm. You won't find either of them now unless you go to some pound-me-in-the-ass auction. I'm sure as **** not paying $1500 for one of them.

I found a Kel TEc Sub 2k on midwestguntrader for $700.

[notorious]

I received 45 pounds of .308 bullets today.


This ammo shortage is a bitch! Time to get into melting my own lead for pistols.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by pr_capone

I found a Kel TEc Sub 2k on midwestguntrader for $700.

Heh. Yeah, that's just over double what the damned thing is worth.

[HonestChieffan]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Get that ammo (And other things) while you can.

Interesting status report from Valley Guns in West Virginia

Status of gun industry

Attention F.B. fans: to follow will be several IMPORTANT Info updates about the status of the gun industry currently, followed by an INVENTORY UPDATE: We traveled to Texas for Industry meetings concerning the shortages, here's what we were told.

Smith & Wesson: is running at Full capacity making 3000+ guns/day-mainly M&P pistols. They are unable to produce any more guns to help with the shortages.

RUGER: Plans to increase from 75% to 100% in the next 90 days.

FNH: Moving from 50% production to 75% by Feb 1st and 100% by March 1.
Remington-Maxed out!

Armalite: Maxed out.

DPMS: Can't get enough parts to produce any more product.

COLT: Production runs increasing weekly...bottle necked by Bolt carrier's.

LWRC: Making only black guns, running at full capacity...can't get enough gun quality steel to make barrels.

Springfield Armory: Only company who can meet demand but are running 30-45 days behind.

AMMO: Every caliber is now Allocated! We are looking at a nation wide shortage of all calibers over the next 9 months. All plants are producing as much ammo as possible w/ of 1 BILLION rounds produced weekly. Most is military followed by L.E. and civilians are third in line.

MAGPUL: is behind 1 MILLION mags, do not expect any large quantities of magpul anytime soon.

RELOADERS... ALL Remington, Winchester, CCI & Federal primers are going to ammo FIRST. There are no extra's for reloading purposes... it could be 6-9 months before things get caught up. Sorry for the bleak news, but now we know what to expect in the coming months. Stay tuned, we'll keep you posted...


Related commentary from Bob Owens:

They didn't know when they'd be getting anything back in stock, from magazines to rifles to pistols. Manufacturers were running full-bore, but couldn't come close to keeping up with market demand. It wasn't just the AR-15s, the AK-pattern rifles, the M1As, and the FALs that were sold out. It really hit me when I realized that the World War-era M1 Garands, M1 carbines, and Enfield 303s were gone, along with every last shell. Ubiquitous Mosin-Nagants-of which every gun store always seems to have 10-20-were gone. So was their ammo. Only a dust free space marked their passing. I've never seen anything like it.


http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2013/01/update-status-of-gun-industry.html

YIKES!!!

RGR stock moving back up. SWHC looks to have finished its little slide and on way back.