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Old 06-13-2018, 01:01 PM  
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Arizona Court Orders Christian Store Owners to Make Gay Wedding Invitations

PHOENIX (AP) — An Arizona appeals court on Thursday upheld a Phoenix anti-discrimination law that makes it illegal for businesses to refuse service to same-sex couples because of religion.

The ruling comes days after the U.S. Supreme Court sided with a Colorado baker who refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex couple. The high court found Monday that a Colorado civil rights commission showed anti-religious bias when it ruled against Jack Phillips for refusing to make the cake at his Masterpiece Cakeshop.

The decision, however, did not address the larger issue of whether a business can invoke religious objections to refuse service to gay and lesbian people.

In the Arizona case, the state Court of Appeals sided with the city in a lawsuit first brought in 2016 by a wedding invitation business, saying the ordinance is constitutional and does not violate freedom of religion or speech....more...

https://azdailysun.com/news/state-an...6db2bbbbf.html
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Old 06-14-2018, 09:53 PM   #136
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Hah. We had many conversations like that when we worked together.
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Old 06-14-2018, 09:54 PM   #137
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Well, each to his own. Or are you planning to sue him in court for it?

Nah. I just like to **** with him. I should send him a crossed swords dildo cake.
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Old 06-14-2018, 09:56 PM   #138
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The libertarian party has been moving to the left for a few years now. Just like the dems have. And the republicans have been moving to the right. I think that the greens and constitution parties are the only ones of the two major and three minor that haven't had much or any change. Which is a shame. There were options for people instead of joining and altering a party from the inside, but it has created a lot of independents also
Isn't it insane how social media has made us MORE radical? Just fascinating. I really think September 10th 2001 was the peak of our existence.
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Old 06-14-2018, 09:57 PM   #139
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The libertarian party has been moving to the left for a few years now. Just like the dems have.
It appears to be so but only since the last election. I guess that's two years. I knew about the Dems which is why I left that party.

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No, I think all of them have shifted left. The GOPe is for Big govt even economically with their corporatist policies. Both are pro military intervention and only disagree as to how. It's only when the other party is starting a war they oppose.

I don't consider Trump to be all that right wing as alleged. He's more like a JFK democrat. Revenues may be up but spending is soaring.

The center is what our Framers envisioned and I use that for how far left someone is. THAT center of theirs is labeled "extremist" now.

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I think that the greens and constitution parties are the only ones of the two major and three minor that haven't had much or any change. Which is a shame. There were options for people instead of joining and altering a party from the inside, but it has created a lot of independents also
That's true about those parties and they may have been options but not really viable ones. I think the only way was to get inside a party and alter it, because we have had bi-partisan screw jobs with the rest being theater. JMO
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Old 06-14-2018, 10:00 PM   #140
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Isn't it insane how social media has made us MORE radical? Just fascinating. I really think September 10th 2001 was the peak of our existence.
Define radical.
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Old 06-14-2018, 10:04 PM   #141
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Wedding invitations have sexual orientation?

I didn't know they even had sex.
I've designed a few and usually you say the names of the two people getting married. This has typically been the name of one man and one woman. So if you get a gay wedding you write both woman's names and if two men, two men's names. It's pretty obvious that sex is involved.


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Old 06-14-2018, 10:05 PM   #142
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Isn't it insane how social media has made us MORE radical? Just fascinating. I really think September 10th 2001 was the peak of our existence.
You're correct sir. We more likely have darker days ahead
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Old 06-14-2018, 10:06 PM   #143
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You're correct sir. We more likely have darker days ahead
Just wait 'til AI gets involved in social media. You ain't seen nothin'!
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Just wait 'til AI gets involved in social media. You ain't seen nothin'!
They'll kill all of the humans before they have their own cable news. Am I the only one that has watched the Terminator Series
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A case this ridiculous and you expect me to waste the time to look at the specifics of it? I'm just looking at it from the standpoint of a business not liking money and a consumer that wants to do business with someone that doesn't want their business. It's pretty simple. They're both acting like they're remedial. It's a shame that both parties can't be institutionalized
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Unless there's a "... but not if Frazod really doesn't want to do it" clause that nobody knows about, you'll get sued into bankruptcy and/or jailed, unless you can prove you've never made similar cakes before, and you don't get to decide what's similar.

Laws and ordinances like this are clearly unconstitutional. The problem is that the Supremes don't give a shit, since they make up first amendment law as they go along, rather than actually adhering to the document. As I've noted in the past, we live in a world where imaginary constitutional rights trump textually inherent constitutional rights because 9 assholes in black robes think their job is to ignore the actual Constitution when it gets in the way of their feelings.
It has to be a living breathing document... Doesn't it? Otherwise black people are only 3/5ths of a real citizen?
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It has to be a living breathing document... Doesn't it? Otherwise black people are only 3/5ths of a real citizen?
That's why five of them having sex was a threesome. I just got that joke
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It has to be a living breathing document... Doesn't it? Otherwise black people are only 3/5ths of a real citizen?
No, and whoever taught you that " black people are only 3/5ths of a real citizen" line taught you bullshit, and you should find them and beat their ass.
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No, and whoever taught you that " black people are only 3/5ths of a real citizen" line taught you bullshit, and you should find them and beat their ass.
I thought that was the law in the 1800's?
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