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Old 05-21-2017, 10:20 PM  
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Kim Dotcom: I knew Seth Rich. I know he was the @Wikileaks source. I was involved.





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Old 05-22-2017, 10:19 AM   #76
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Meanwhile, the court case on the rigged DNC primary for Swillary over the Commie, has DNC admitting they rigged it, had the right to rig it in their testimony, but the major media doesn't publish it. They claim their own rules govern the selection of a candidate and govt has no right to interfere in those rules.

If you google the topic, however, there are a ton of links, publishing the court case, some including transcripts.

Don't think the RNC doesn't think they have the same right. This is another reason people are fed up with both parties and the regular poll results showing a large majority are not happy with the direction of the country.
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Old 05-22-2017, 10:27 AM   #77
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Meanwhile, the court case on the rigged DNC primary for Swillary over the Commie, has DNC admitting they rigged it, had the right to rig it in their testimony, but the major media doesn't publish it. They claim their own rules govern the selection of a candidate and govt has no right to interfere in those rules.

If you google the topic, however, there are a ton of links, publishing the court case, some including transcripts.

Don't think the RNC doesn't think they have the same right. This is another reason people are fed up with both parties and the regular poll results showing a large majority are not happy with the direction of the country.
BEP and the facts of the matter.
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Old 05-22-2017, 10:44 AM   #78
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Megaupload founder and friend of Julian Assange has offered to provide Congress with written testimony and proof that murdered Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich was WikiLeaks’ source — if they will include his murder in their Russia investigation.
Why would the Rich matter be folded up into the Russia investigation? It's got nothing to do with Russia.

It's easy to claim you have evidence and then say you're only going to make it public if Congress will do something that will never happen.
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Old 05-22-2017, 10:46 AM   #79
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Why would the Rich matter be folded up into the Russia investigation? It's got nothing to do with Russia.

It's easy to claim you have evidence and then say you're only going to make it public if Congress will do something that will never happen.
Because, otherwise the Rich investigation is sitting stale on the shelf. Forcing it to go to the Russian investigation takes it out of the hands that are intentionally being sat on.
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Old 05-22-2017, 11:07 AM   #80
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Because, otherwise the Rich investigation is sitting stale on the shelf. Forcing it to go to the Russian investigation takes it out of the hands that are intentionally being sat on.
How could the special counsel truthfully claim that Rich is a part of the Russia investigation and use that as a pretext to use investigative powers to pursue it? There's no way to do that.

Dotcom could ask for the FBI to investigate the information he can supposedly provide, but he hasn't done so. He's asked for something that can't occur, and claimed that no one can see his evidence unless that thing does occur. Not a terrible position.
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Old 05-22-2017, 11:09 AM   #81
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How could the special counsel truthfully claim that Rich is a part of the Russia investigation and use that as a pretext to use investigative powers to pursue it? There's no way to do that.
via the alleged Russian hack of the DNC
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Old 05-22-2017, 11:16 AM   #82
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The cart's still before the horse. He's asking them to make Rich part of it before there is anything to go on.
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Old 05-22-2017, 11:19 AM   #83
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The cart's still before the horse. He's asking them to make Rich part of it before there is anything to go on.
We have been assured that the DNC hack was, indeed, done by the Russians. It is certainly within the bounds of any probe into Trump/Russia election collusion. Therefore, investigating whether or not Rich's death might have been tied to said theoretical collusion in some manner is a logical approach, should they wish to go down that path. And, naturally, from there you go where the evidence takes you.
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Old 05-22-2017, 11:25 AM   #84
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We have been assured that the DNC hack was, indeed, done by the Russians. It is certainly within the bounds of any probe into Trump/Russia election collusion. Therefore, investigating whether or not Rich's death might have been tied to said theoretical collusion in some manner is a logical approach, should they wish to go down that path. And, naturally, from there you go where the evidence takes you.
I hope that we see every word of whatever it is he has, but why doesn't he just provide it? If the information is credible and as damaging as he says it is, then it would certainly be folded up into the probe.

And even if they declined to do so, doesn't he want the information to become public so that justice can be done?
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Old 05-22-2017, 11:32 AM   #85
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I hope that we see every word of whatever it is he has, but why doesn't he just provide it? If the information is credible and as damaging as he says it is, then it would certainly be folded up into the probe.

And even if they declined to do so, doesn't he want the information to become public so that justice can be done?
I've got no take on KDT in this specific instance. However, given his dealings with the U.S., I wouldn't necessarily expect his take on justice to align.
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Old 05-22-2017, 11:45 AM   #86
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I've got no take on KDT in this specific instance. However, given his dealings with the U.S., I wouldn't necessarily expect his take on justice to align.
Surely "his take on justice" involves people who commit murder being brought to justice, right?
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Old 05-22-2017, 11:53 AM   #87
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Pretty broad investigation terms in (ii):
https://assets.documentcloud.org/doc...sel-Russia.pdf
The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James B. Comey in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i) any links and or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and
(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and
(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. 600.4(a).
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Surely "his take on justice" involves people who commit murder being brought to justice, right?
If it involved having to deal with the U.S. government, after what he's been through with it? Maybe not.
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Old 05-22-2017, 12:06 PM   #89
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How could the special counsel truthfully claim that Rich is a part of the Russia investigation and use that as a pretext to use investigative powers to pursue it? There's no way to do that.

Dotcom could ask for the FBI to investigate the information he can supposedly provide, but he hasn't done so. He's asked for something that can't occur, and claimed that no one can see his evidence unless that thing does occur. Not a terrible position.

They can investigate whatever they wish. If their investigation points that the Rich death is related then that's how. It's really not even much of a reach.
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Old 05-22-2017, 12:18 PM   #90
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If it involved having to deal with the U.S. government, after what he's been through with it? Maybe not.
Nah. It's not credible that he would withhold information implicating specific people and entities in the murder of his friend, which cause be an earth-shattering political upheaval, if he truly has it.

He is not someone whose word can be taken without verification. If he is unwilling to produce whatever evidence he says that he has, this bears all the hallmarks of someone grandstanding or campaigning for publicity. If he has evidence, then show it.

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