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Old 05-21-2017, 10:20 PM  
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Kim Dotcom: I knew Seth Rich. I know he was the @Wikileaks source. I was involved.





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Old 05-22-2017, 09:41 AM   #61
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LOL...17 agencies that all report to, at the time, James Clapper.
You guys are alleging that our intelligence agencies are conspiring to start a political witch hunt against the party that controls all three branches of government. It's just a tad bit ridiculous. If the other agencies weren't on board, where are the leaks that would suggest as much?
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Old 05-22-2017, 09:43 AM   #62
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I'm gonna remain skeptical of Kim Dot com.....till hard evidence comes out. I think he is full of shit trying for the spotlight here
Certainly wouldn't be the first time he's done so.
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Old 05-22-2017, 09:46 AM   #63
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You guys are alleging that our intelligence agencies are conspiring to start a political witch hunt against the party that controls all three branches of government. It's just a tad bit ridiculous. If the other agencies weren't on board, where are the leaks that would suggest as much?
Yeah...because it is so unprecedented that the FBI

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Old 05-22-2017, 09:46 AM   #64
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I'm gonna remain skeptical of Kim Dot com.....till hard evidence comes out. I think he is full of shit trying for the spotlight here
A fair conclusion and I agree we need to see the evidence.
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Old 05-22-2017, 09:49 AM   #65
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You guys are alleging that our intelligence agencies are conspiring to start a political witch hunt against the party that controls all three branches of government. It's just a tad bit ridiculous. If the other agencies weren't on board, where are the leaks that would suggest as much?
Given the leaks that have come out and who\where they have had to come from...I'd say the allegation has a lot of merit. It may no the every single agency and it may not be the Repubs in general. But we do know that even some of the latest leaks came from "former Obama officials". Where do you think they got their info?
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Old 05-22-2017, 09:54 AM   #66
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I am? Marcellus went radio silent but you're free to try me.
Some people here actually work dumbshit.

And I stand by what I said, you don't even know the correct definition of a lie.
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Old 05-22-2017, 09:57 AM   #67
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Anyone who uses the "17 agencies" narrative immediately looks like a moron because they are basing their argument on utter bullshit.

I am sure the Coast Guard has been all over this investigation.
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Old 05-22-2017, 10:02 AM   #68
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Old 05-22-2017, 10:07 AM   #69
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I can't speak for conservatives. Do you mean the CIA and NSA that were recently caught lying about spying on Americans? Are you referring to the FBI Bureau that was built on inappropriately spying on people and blackmailing them by j.edgar Hoover? People like Dr. King. who do you think gathered all the data for that McCarthyism/Red Scare b******* back in the fifties and sixties? We'll see if this person's claims are true but that person has never lied to me like the FBI CIA and NSA.
Wow, that's downright...rational.
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How can you say people weren't influenced by the release of the emails and the spread of fake news by Russian propogandists? Sure, nobody can know for certain what effect it had, but it's not hard to envision it being the tipping point for some voters to either swing for Trump or not show up to cast their vote.

Obviously she ran a pretty bad campaign as a whole, but she still won the popular vote by almost 3 million. And while you're correct that she barely won Minnesota, Trump won by a combined 80k votes in Wisconsin, Michigan, and PA. It could very easily have gone the other way. But I'm not here to relitigate the election.
The emails stolen from an unsecure, illegal server or the ones phished from Podesta?
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Anyone who uses the "17 agencies" narrative immediately looks like a moron because they are basing their argument on utter bullshit.

I am sure the Coast Guard has been all over this investigation.
Yup. Taco John is an idiot. The emails were in English, and they were written by the Democrats.

So, do the liberals think that the Russians hacked the Electoral College? I don't get it...
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You guys are alleging that our intelligence agencies are conspiring to start a political witch hunt against the party that controls all three branches of government. It's just a tad bit ridiculous. If the other agencies weren't on board, where are the leaks that would suggest as much?
Who wrote the emails?

Are they true?

Then corruption was exposed, as it always should be.
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Kim Dotcom Offers Congress Evidence to Prove Seth Rich Was WikiLeaks Source

Megaupload founder and friend of Julian Assange has offered to provide Congress with written testimony and proof that murdered Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich was WikiLeaks’ source — if they will include his murder in their Russia investigation.

Kim Dotcom has also now claimed that he was involved in the leak — and that he personally knew Rich.

“If Congress includes #SethRich case into their Russia probe I’ll give written testimony with evidence that Seth Rich was @Wikileaks source,” Dotcom tweeted on Friday.

Dotcom also accused the DNC of withholding their servers from the FBI because “Seth Rich ain’t Russia!”




Additionally, the tech entrepreneur provided three email addresses that he claims belonged to Rich: Seth.c.rich@gmail.com, Panda4Progress@gmail.com, and Pandas4Bernie@gmail.com. He urged Google administrators to send the contents of the accounts over to WikiLeaks.




The email addresses lead concerned citizens to track down the Twitter accounts @Panda4Progress and @Pandas4Bernie which are now inactive. In a now deleted tweet, nearly a year after Rich’s death, Andrew Therriault, former DNC Director of Data Science, tagged @Panda4Progress implying that the user is an “embarrassment.”




Therriault tweeted about Rich multiple times this week, as well as retweeting news articles from liberal news outlets relating to the case.

The Pandas4Bernie account was last active on June 11, less than one month before Rich was murdered. The last tweet on the account was a manifesto about continuing to fight for Senator Bernie Sanders.

On Saturday, Dotcom promised to put out a statement on Tuesday after meeting with his legal team, adding that it “needs to be done properly.” He also asserted once again that Rich was in fact the source — and that he knew him.

The Russian Embassy in London also weighed in on the murder of Rich on Friday, tweeting that “#WikiLeaks informer Seth Rich murdered in US but MSM [mainstream media] was so busy accusing Russian hackers to take notice.”




Rich was murdered early morning hours of July 10, 2016, near his home while he was on the phone with his girlfriend. The police initially ruled that it was a botched robbery — but his wallet, watch, and necklace were still on his person when he was discovered by police. After his death, his girlfriend told a local news station that she believed that it sounded like he was murdered out of anger.




On Thursday, Dotcom provided a list of surveillance cameras that were near the Rich crime scene, which should have been able to offer at least a rough glance at the perpetrator.







Assange has previously hinted that Rich may be the leaker, while repeatedly reminding the public that they never comment on their sources. Eyebrows were also raised when WikiLeaks offered a $20,000 reward for information on his killer.

“Whistleblowers go to significant efforts to get us material and often significant risks. There was a 27-year old that works for the DNC who was shot in the back… murdered.. for unknown reasons as he was walking down the street in Washington,” Assange said during an interview with Dutch TV last year.

At this point the host interjected saying, “that was just a robbery, wasn’t it?”

“No there was no finding,” Assange responded.

When asked what he was suggesting, Assange said, “I am suggesting that our sources take risks and they become concerned to see things occurring like that.”

“But why make the suggestion?” the interviewer asks.

“Because we have to understand how high the stakes are in the United States and that our sources face serious risks… that’s why they come to us so we can protect their anonymity,” Assange asserted.



Early Tuesday morning, news broke that former DC homicide detective Rod Wheeler, who was privately investigating the murder, found evidence that the 27-year-old had been communicating with WikiLeaks.

In a bizarre and aggressive statement following Wheeler’s report, Brad Bauman, the spokesman for the Rich family, who just so happens to be a Democratic Party crisis PR consultant, claims that even if an email [to WikiLeaks] was found, it would not be evidence of foul play.

“Even if tomorrow, an email was found, it is not a high enough bar of evidence to prove any interactions as emails can be altered and we’ve seen that those interested in pushing conspiracies will stop at nothing to do so,” Bauman said in a statement.




Fox News also reported that a federal source confirmed to them that “an FBI forensic report of Rich’s computer — generated within 96 hours after Rich’s murder — showed he made contact with WikiLeaks through Gavin MacFadyen, a now-deceased American investigative reporter, documentary filmmaker, and director of WikiLeaks who was living in London at the time.”

The investigator specifically told Fox News that 44,053 emails and 17,761 attachments were sent from Rich to MacFayden before May 21. That happens to be the exact number included in the leak.

“My investigation up to this point shows there was some degree of email exchange between Seth Rich and WikiLeaks,” Wheeler said. “I do believe that the answers to who murdered Seth Rich sits on his computer on a shelf at the DC police or FBI headquarters.”

WikiLeaks retweeted and shared the Fox News report which asserted that Rich was their source. They did not provide additional comment.

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How can you say people weren't influenced by the release of the emails and the spread of fake news by Russian propogandists?
You mean the emails written by the DNC and Clinton herself that proved the DNP was rigged against Sanders from the inside?

I'm sure the Electoral College was not ****ing amused.

Duh. Think about it.
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It still amazes me how the prog drones continue to try to spin PEOPLE LEARNING THE TRUTH.
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