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Old 03-03-2017, 04:41 PM  
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The Basic Formula For Every Shocking Russia/Trump Revelation

The Basic Formula For Every Shocking Russia/Trump Revelation

The basic formula for every breaking Trump/Russia story is essentially as follows:

1. The New York Times or Washington Post releases an article that at first blush appears extremely damning.

2. Anti-Trump pundits and Democrats react reflexively to the news, express shrieking outrage, and proclaim that this finally proves untoward collusion between Trump and Russia — a smoking gun, at last.

3. Aggrieved former Clinton apparatchiks *connect the dots* in a manner eerily reminiscent of right-wing Glenn Beck-esque prognostication circa 2009.

4. Self-proclaimed legal experts rashly opine as to whether the new revelation entails some kind of criminally actionable offense. (Recall the now-laughable certitude that felled National Security Advisor Mike Flynn violated the 200+ year old Logan Act.) This latest version is the certitude that Jeff Sessions committed perjury, when that at the very least is highly questionable.




5. The notion of Russian “collusion” being key to toppling Trump becomes further implanted in the minds of the most energized Democratic activists, as evidenced this time around by a troupe of protesters who showed up to the Department of Justice headquarters brandishing trademarked “Resist” placards, chanting “Lock Him Up,” and (as usual) hyperventilating about Putin. As I’ve written before, Trump/Putin theories are increasingly the top concern that plugged-in “Resistance” types bring up at the highly-charged town hall meetings that have received so much attention of late.




6. Pointing out these glaring flaws in the latest anti-Russia frenzy is immediately construed by cynics as “defending Trump” or “defending Sessions” when it most assuredly is not. At least in my own case, it’s a defense of not getting enraptured by irrational hysterics to further short-term political aims.

7. People who’d spent the past 12 hours frothing at the mouth gradually come to realize that their initial furor was probably overblown, and that a more sober look at the actual facts at hand reveal that the anti-Trump chorus probably got ahead of itself…again.




8. Democrats who sought to capitalize on the uproar end up looking extremely foolish.




9. It becomes “normalized” (that new favorite buzzword!) to cast any meetings or contacts with Russian officials as inherently sinister. Rather than just a basic function of a Senator’s ordinary duties, meeting with “The Russians” is increasingly viewed as evidence of nefarious intent, and perhaps participation in a grand global conspiracy.

10. Political ineptitude and clumsiness (as was very probably the case with Flynn) gets interpreted as something more calculated than it really is. Sessions could’ve avoided this ridiculous controversy by saying something to the effect of: “I did not meet with any Russian officials in my informal capacity as Trump campaign surrogate, but I did speak with Russian officials over the course of my ordinary Senatorial duties.” The problem is, such an admission would’ve probably blown up into a big political snafu; Democrats would’ve seized on it as evidence of Russian collusion. So Sessions tried to lawyer himself out of trouble with an ambiguous comment during sworn testimony. This allowed him to sneak through the confirmation process, but created an even bigger political storm later.

11. A Trump official’s least egregious quality ends up being portrayed as his most egregious quality. There were any number of reasons to be highly worried about the presence of Mike Flynn in the Trump administration, from his bellicose posture toward Iran, to his outlandish views on the alleged threat posed by Islam. Conversing with the Russian ambassador about reducing tensions would very clearly not have been on the “reasons to be worried about Flynn” list. Likewise, Jeff Sessions is a troubling figure for a whole host of reasons, ranging from his hawkishly retrograde attitude about Drug Prohibition to his dicey history on racial matters. That he spoke to the Russian Ambassador in September 2016 would not be on the “reasons to be worried about Sessions” list.

12. The overall political climate gets further degraded and warped without any commensurate upside.

13. Repeat.

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Old 03-03-2017, 04:42 PM   #2
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Does this not perfectly describe the hosts of every MSNBC show, and most of our CP liberals?
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Old 03-03-2017, 04:49 PM   #3
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There has not been this big of a Red Menace scare since the Cold War.

I don't think the Dems even realize how stupid they look as they keep playing the Russian card instead of doing some actually work for a change.
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Old 03-03-2017, 04:53 PM   #4
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There has not been this big of a Red Menace scare since the Cold War.

I don't think the Dems even realize how stupid they look as they keep playing the Russian card instead of doing some actually work for a change.
There's no red menace. It's a vaguely tangerine sort of color. That's the menace.
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Old 03-03-2017, 04:55 PM   #5
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Don is going to steamroll again in 2020, dems just cant help themselves... smearing shit everywhere like a toddler digging in its diaper
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Old 03-03-2017, 05:00 PM   #6
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Don is going to steamroll again in 2020, dems just cant help themselves... smearing shit everywhere like a toddler digging in its diaper
These numbnutz are absolutely clearly a path for 8 years of Trump.
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Old 03-03-2017, 05:06 PM   #7
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Old 03-03-2017, 05:30 PM   #8
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Yes, Republicans would never engage in such tactics.

Birthers
Obamacare
Benghazi
Emails

Nice selective memory, but hey, whatever makes your echo chamber sleep better at night.
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Old 03-03-2017, 05:39 PM   #9
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Yes, Republicans would never engage in such tactics.

Birthers
Obamacare
Benghazi
Emails

Nice selective memory, but hey, whatever makes your echo chamber sleep better at night.
Obamacare is failure, it isnt sustainable in its current form

Benghazi was a ****ing disgrace, no doubt about it

The email fiasco was flat out criminal... the government subpoenaed them, she then deleted them
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Old 03-03-2017, 05:58 PM   #10
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Old 03-03-2017, 06:00 PM   #11
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Obamacare is failure, it isnt sustainable in its current form

Benghazi was a ****ing disgrace, no doubt about it

The email fiasco was flat out criminal... the government subpoenaed them, she then deleted them
OK, but Trump said their were NO contacts with Russians with him or his campaign and now we're up to what 4... 5?

If we're going to hold the same standards. Then just admit he lied and quit blaming it on some insidious formula.
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Old 03-03-2017, 06:05 PM   #12
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OK, but Trump said their were NO contacts with Russians with him or his campaign and now we're up to what 4... 5?

If we're going to hold the same standards. Then just admit he lied and quit blaming it on some insidious formula.
The fact remains that incoming administrations meet with foreign dignitaries all of the time, its part of the job... but since its Russia, there surely has to be some nefarious meaning behind it according to the left
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Old 03-03-2017, 06:10 PM   #13
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The fact remains that incoming administrations meet with foreign dignitaries all of the time, its part of the job... but since its Russia, there surely has to be some nefarious meaning behind it according to the left
I completely agree, but they LIED about it. Russian hacking was a major issue. If they want to reveal the contents of those meetings under oath, then do it and be done with it. Instead, they are ACTING like they have something to hide. At best, its a bad strategy. At worse, well, we're talking treason.
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Old 03-03-2017, 06:18 PM   #14
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Russian hacking was a major issue.
No it wasn't. This is a lie.

Seth Rich leaked the documents and they made an example of him for it.
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Old 03-03-2017, 06:19 PM   #15
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The Democrats' strategy to oppose Trump in the immediate term is already at sea. This is obviously just a snapshot of the day-to-day.

The strategy is to continually cast him as illegitimate - to claim that he cheated, that the election was hacked, he didn't really win, we don't have to respect him or the office or the political process, he shouldn't be there anyway, he must be unseated, etc.

This strategy has two main benefits. If they cast him as illegitimate, then any means to oppose him may be justified, no matter how ferocious or destructive, since he shouldn't be there anyway. They hope this will provide cover in the minds of voters for the slash and burn tactics they will use for the rest of his term.

The Democrats won't usually have the votes to stop him, so they have no real options besides this. They can't work within the system to oppose him as the loyal opposition of the past because that "legitimizes" or "normalizes" him and counteracts their narrative.

Second, pushing the narrative that he is illegitimate shines light away from how deep and wide the Democrats' election losses have been since 2008, how thin their bench is, and the fact that their party is in a state of disarray.

Trump's election is largely a reflection of how broken the two major parties are, but at least the GOP finds itself with a standard bearer. For the Democrats, 2016 starts people to ask questions that the party leadership, which resists all change, do not want being asked. It's important for them to keep people's eye off the ball until they can gather their composure again.

The miscalculation in all of this is that the average voter's BS detector is set on a hair-trigger these days, and all these prefabricated controversies that come stamped with two-week expiration dates just blend into one another. Voters don't trust the left's media voices any longer, so their ability to control the narrative is becoming pretty limited. We saw that with Hillary's political demise.

If Hillary had won, the GOP would be in just as bad a state. But she didn't, and the Democrats don't seem to want to stop rowing in a circle on the river Denial anytime soon.
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