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Old 01-09-2018, 09:52 PM  
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Old 01-10-2018, 04:57 PM   #31
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Because those are legitimate internet service providers. We don't all need top of the line internet nor does it make sense to embark on a massive government program to bring it to every farmer in America.
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Old 01-10-2018, 05:01 PM   #32
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Because those are legitimate internet service providers. We don't all need top of the line internet nor does it make sense to embark on a massive government program to bring it to every farmer in America.

True they are. They are unreliable. They are expensive and they come with limits on use. They are slow. And there is nothing being discussed of a massive program.

This is not a program for every farmer. There are actually people and families just like yours who live in rural America. They should have access to the same things you have access to that was subsidized so you can get it. They cannot.

It would be nice but will never happen that we have cell service ins low populated areas but it wont happen.
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Old 01-10-2018, 06:00 PM   #33
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That's not a disingenuous argument.
It completely is you dishonest troll.

Anything with data caps is not a broadband internet option in today's society.
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Old 01-10-2018, 06:03 PM   #34
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Because those are legitimate internet service providers. We don't all need top of the line internet nor does it make sense to embark on a massive government program to bring it to every farmer in America.


Not having data caps and enjoying the minimum speed needed to stream is not top of the line.

There you are being a dishonest troll again.
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It's not that. It's that you don't seem to understand that most EOs are perfectly legitimate exercises of executive power. The only reason to object to an EO is if it exceeds the President's executive power. If you don't know what this EO does, you can't know whether it's legit or objectionable and you can't know how it compares to any of Obama's EOs.

Blindly complaining about EOs isn't any better if you blindly criticize EOs from both parties. The first step is to understand what the EO does and whether or not the President had appropriate authority for it. In this case, the President is just ordering his executive departments to streamline some of their procedures to make it easier to expand broadband. I doubt that the President lacks authority to do this, although I haven't researched all the details. This isn't a case of the President legislating, this is a case of the President executing.
I know that and I even eluded to it in the post you quoted. I just don't like a president using executive orders other than war time. I know I'm in the minority on that. We have a congress for a reason. I'm just putting my cards out on the table so to speak.

What a weird thread. I have HonestChieffan, patteeu, and Loneiguana disagreeing with me. And I respect and honor the opinion of 2 of the three I must be me where the problem is
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Old 01-10-2018, 11:04 PM   #36
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I know that and I even eluded to it in the post you quoted. I just don't like a president using executive orders other than war time. I know I'm in the minority on that. We have a congress for a reason. I'm just putting my cards out on the table so to speak.

What a weird thread. I have HonestChieffan, patteeu, and Loneiguana disagreeing with me. And I respect and honor the opinion of 2 of the three I must be me where the problem is
That makes no sense. If you understand that it's an executive function, what's your problem with EOs? How do you want the President to communicate his policy directions to his subordinates?
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It looks like Missouri electric Co-ops may be getting some help with the broadband - https://www.electric.coop/missouri-e...unt-mccaskill/

And yes, I am served by Co-Mo and it is great. I pay about $154/mo for Internet (100mps up and down), cable (everything but movies), and land line phone. I'm saving about $60/mo over Charter's shitty service. Tech support is 24hrs a day and they speak English.
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It looks like Missouri electric Co-ops may be getting some help with the broadband - https://www.electric.coop/missouri-e...unt-mccaskill/

And yes, I am served by Co-Mo and it is great. I pay about $154/mo for Internet (300mps up and down), cable (everything but movies), and land line phone. I'm saving about $60/mo over Charter's shitty service. Tech support is 24hrs a day and they speak English.
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Lets hope something more than Claire holding an input meeting happens. Old dame flaps her jaws a lot and has not proposed a solution to anything since her ass went to DC.
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Probably not. They have no subsidiary that creates content.
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Bringing broadband internet access to rural areas has been an ongoing, long-term effort, but millions of Americans, including over a third of rural citizens according to 2016 reports, still don't have the option. Today FCC Chairman Ajit Pai proposed an order that would put $500 million in funding towards closing the broadband gap, institute new regulations aimed at preventing abuse of the Connect America Fund and promote broadband access in tribal lands.

"We need more deployment in sparsely populated rural areas if we're going to extend digital opportunity to all Americans," Pai said in a statement. "But I've heard from community leaders, Congress and carriers that insufficient, unpredictable funding has kept them from reaching this goal. With the $500 million in new funding provided by this order, we'll boost broadband deployment in rural America and put our high-cost system on a more efficient path, helping to ensure that every American can benefit from the digital revolution."

As part of a Connect America Fund promise, AT&T has been rolling out wireless internet to rural areas since April of last year and as of September, it had launched its services in 18 states. Last June, Donald Trump said that his infrastructure plan would include provisions for expanding broadband internet access and earlier this month, he signed an executive order that would speed up the process of obtaining federal permits, making it easier for companies to expand broadband networks. However, it did not provide any additional funds for the effort. This year, the FCC will conduct a reverse auction that will provide telecommunications carriers with nearly $2 billion spread out over 10 years to expand their broadband and voice services across rural areas.

Pai's proposed order hasn't been released and, therefore, there aren't many details available about the plan. But in his statement, Pai said, "Closing the digital divide is the FCC's top priority."
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Bringing broadband internet access to rural areas has been an ongoing, long-term effort, but millions of Americans, including over a third of rural citizens according to 2016 reports, still don't have the option. Today FCC Chairman Ajit Pai proposed an order that would put $500 million in funding towards closing the broadband gap, institute new regulations aimed at preventing abuse of the Connect America Fund and promote broadband access in tribal lands.

"We need more deployment in sparsely populated rural areas if we're going to extend digital opportunity to all Americans," Pai said in a statement. "But I've heard from community leaders, Congress and carriers that insufficient, unpredictable funding has kept them from reaching this goal. With the $500 million in new funding provided by this order, we'll boost broadband deployment in rural America and put our high-cost system on a more efficient path, helping to ensure that every American can benefit from the digital revolution."

As part of a Connect America Fund promise, AT&T has been rolling out wireless internet to rural areas since April of last year and as of September, it had launched its services in 18 states. Last June, Donald Trump said that his infrastructure plan would include provisions for expanding broadband internet access and earlier this month, he signed an executive order that would speed up the process of obtaining federal permits, making it easier for companies to expand broadband networks. However, it did not provide any additional funds for the effort. This year, the FCC will conduct a reverse auction that will provide telecommunications carriers with nearly $2 billion spread out over 10 years to expand their broadband and voice services across rural areas.

Pai's proposed order hasn't been released and, therefore, there aren't many details available about the plan. But in his statement, Pai said, "Closing the digital divide is the FCC's top priority."
So they rescinded Net Neutrality only to reintroduce expansion funding from the government and institute new government regulations? ... are the Trumpers still cheering about getting the government out of the broadband business?
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So they rescinded Net Neutrality only to reintroduce expansion funding from the government and institute new government regulations? ... are the Trumpers still cheering about getting the government out of the broadband business?
NN had no component to encourage access in rural areas.

You may also find this of interest...http://www.mystatesman.com/news/opin...VNqQMkTj2ED1I/
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