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Old 01-10-2017, 01:18 PM  
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DeShaun Watson: The Time Is Now

Yeah. This is happening.

Watson will almost certainly be on the board for our first rounder. He will possibly be on the board for our second pick.

I understand 100% of the critiques here. He's from a spread offense. He hasn't run a huddle. He hasn't worked under center. He has off games. He's undersized...

I get it. I get it all.

This guy plays like a goddamn champion. Put aside the fact that he actually is one -- he is a locker room leader with toughness beyond his years.

We need to take him. He needs to be the QB of the future in Kansas City.
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Old 01-10-2017, 04:12 PM   #16
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Watson - 6'3" 215 lbs - according to ESPN
Mariota - 6'4" 222 lbs - combine
RGIII - 6'2" 223 lbs - combine
Did RGIII ever look anywhere near that stout to you, though?

Everything about him was just lean and angular. He looked like you could break him, regardless of the weight.

I'm surprised to see he came in that heavy but I still think Watson has a more NFL ready build.
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Old 01-10-2017, 04:18 PM   #17
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Did RGIII ever look anywhere near that stout to you, though?

Everything about him was just lean and angular. He looked like you could break him, regardless of the weight.

I'm surprised to see he came in that heavy but I still think Watson has a more NFL ready build.
If anyone looks like RG3.....it's Lamar Jackson.
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Old 01-10-2017, 04:28 PM   #18
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That's not entirely fair.

His build isn't really that slight. He's built more like Mariota than RGIII. Really, he's probably built at least as thickly as Smith.

He could maybe get a little thicker in his lower half but that's true of anyone in their early 20s. He's plenty sturdy enough for this level, IMO.

He'd be an exciting pick and a fun guy to root for and watch develop. I'm still not convinced he'd be the right pick but I'd absolutely defer here.
I'm not a fan of him, at all.

I've been watching quite a bit of his play via Josh Norris and he just makes really bad decisions and struggles with accuracy. He appears to have a very slight build and his propensity to take off and run reminds me of RGIII.

I've said this in a few other threads but I think it'll take several years (if ever) for him to become a good pocket passer, especially since he'll need to fight the urge to run when he can't find a receiver.
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Old 01-10-2017, 04:36 PM   #19
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Yeah. This is happening.

Watson will almost certainly be on the board for our first rounder. He will possibly be on the board for our second pick.

I understand 100% of the critiques here. He's from a spread offense. He hasn't run a huddle. He hasn't worked under center. He has off games. He's undersized...

I get it. I get it all.

This guy plays like a goddamn champion. Put aside the fact that he actually is one -- he is a locker room leader with toughness beyond his years.

We need to take him. He needs to be the QB of the future in Kansas City.
Yeah, so they said that about Vince Young, Tim Tebow, Johnny Manziel. The list goes on. BUT, I think he's more of a Cam Newton, than those guys.
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Old 01-10-2017, 05:15 PM   #20
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If we didn't have Andy Reid I'd have 0 interest in the guy. If Reid thinks he can fix him I'd be game with giving him the Aaron Rodgers treatment.
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Old 01-10-2017, 05:44 PM   #21
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I am all for drafting him but people need to understand it will be 2-3 years before he's ready. His foot work on short passes is especially bad. He relies too much on arm strength. However, his leadership makes him worth it. I'd take him in the first round if Reid likes him...

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Old 01-10-2017, 06:25 PM   #22
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Interesting tidbit. I was perusing several mock drafts today and every one of them had Kansas City drafting at 30. So I guess they are all expecting us to beat Pittsburgh this weekend, but losing to NE in the AFCCG.
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Old 01-10-2017, 09:28 PM   #23
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Watson is similar to Mariota but not as consistent.
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Old 01-10-2017, 09:55 PM   #24
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Sure, I'll throw a 3rd rounder at him.
This is enough for me to say no ****ing thank you...
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Old 01-11-2017, 03:42 AM   #25
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Does anyone actually think this guy will be available when we pick? QBs always get overvalued. Unless you expect us to move up (and moving up for a project QB probably isn't a good idea for a team that consistently gets value wherever they pick), then I don't see how he's a realistic target for us.

I mean, if he's there after the first round, sure, go for it. But I'd be shocked if he's even there by the late 20s.
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Old 01-11-2017, 07:08 AM   #26
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This is enough for me to say no ****ing thank you...
Give me one ****ing opinion on any QB in this class, and you can make this joke.

Until you do, you're just a flaming dumb****.

I didn't even issue a real opinion on Watson. But if you wanted to argue that I did, my opinion of him would be a negative one, because I compare using a 3rd round pick on him to drafting a player and then cutting him before Week 1.

You're the dumbest piece of shit on this entire board.
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Old 01-11-2017, 08:38 AM   #27
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The time is just about now to finally invest some capital in a QB. Whether that is Watson or not I don't know, but it's time to shit or get off the pot. These yearly 4th and 5th round picks at QB aren't cutting it.
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The combine is going to determine where this kid goes. If he's >210 lbs and <4.6 he's going in the top 10. There's no way he's lasting past the 20th pick.

The Chiefs would have to sacrifice a LOT to move up and get him, and there are more talented, more NFL-ready QBs coming out in 2018.

I'm still on the Sam Darnold bandwagon. Better to wait a year, trade some picks now for 2018 picks, and get a better QB than sacrifice a lot more for a lesser QB.
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Old 01-11-2017, 08:55 AM   #29
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The problem with waiting until 2018 is we're waiting until 2019 or 2020 until the guy is a legitimate player ready to take the reigns. Our roster is going to be getting pretty long in the tooth by then. We of course wouldn't have had this problem if we had jumped at the chance to take someone like Carr or Bridgewater in previous drafts. I'm not going to be surprised if we're left with our dicks in our hands like we were when Trent Green retired with nobody at all to take the reigns.
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It's only one more year. It's absolutely worth it to get a better player, especially when this team is probably taking a G or ILB anyway in April.

And I would argue the QB they draft in 2018 will be ready to start right away, especially since they won't pay 34-year old Alex Smith $20 million.
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