ObamaCare: Rotten to the core

[Hammock Parties]

Great plan, Mr. President.

What you didn't know about Obama care

Originally Posted by Bornagain?

Each patient now has a time limit to get better. If a patient comes in my clinic with a heart attack; I have 5 days (hypothetical) to get him better. After that the insurance wants me to fix him but not pay a dime. I actually have to give a refund back to the Insurance company. Same shit applies to everything, even patients with psychological problems....who will most likely NEVER get better.

Then they wonder why mother****ers are going out and shooting people up? It's because Obama wants Insurance companies to quadruple their profits at the expense of quality of health being provided to honest hard working Americans. At the same time companies are required to give Insurance to their employees, meaning more profit for insurance companies.

Hospitals are closing all over the place. The one I was born in reported a loss of 14 million last year and is now closing down. Another great hospital is firing 40% of it's doctors soon. Our new system is horrible and discourages good doctors from working inside United States.

Obama has been nothing but a tyrant who has introduced socialism to this country and is slowly taking away our rights. People complained about Bush water boarding three high valued targets now we directly assassinate Americans with no accountability.

[BucEyedPea]

If the govt can physically probe us at the airport then why not an employer?

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

I was having a conversation earlier today with some senior business types who think Obamacare will result in a massive change in how employers handle employees, with many effectively switching to a multiple part-time employee system, shared-shifts (or whatever it's called, when you've got one person who works mornings, and another who works afternoons), all with the goal of avoiding the minimum hours worked thresholds that trigger the requirements on employers.

Dude, i know the trolling is easy in here but you have higher standards.

Would it be possible to get a credible source?

are you kidding me???

If we had any modding standards, Amnorix would be banned for lying and trolling.

/ObamaRapidResponseTeam

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Dude, i know the trolling is easy in here but you have higher standards.

Would it be possible to get a credible source?

are you kidding me???

If we had any modding standards, Amnorix would be banned for lying and trolling.

/ObamaRapidResponseTeam

I heard that too. It makes perfect sense for them. But then someone said, the left will come out with new regulations to stop that, or the IRS may crack down on that, at which point the businesses close shop because it's not worth it. Altas shrugs. Socialism has never worked anywhere. It destroys an economy, creates less jobs etc. etc.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Otter

You have no ground to stand on when it comes to criticizing anyone for lack of rational argument you troll....none.

Sorry no one bought your horseshit story. No reason to be pissed at me. Come up with something better next time.

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by Otter

You have no ground to stand on when it comes to criticizing anyone for lack of rational argument you troll....none.

Yup! Yet, he calls out others for being hypocrites. He's one too.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Yup! Yet, he calls out others for being hypocrites. He's one too.

So, you back up his story about having to strip naked (later amended) and have a physical exam for a job interview (later amended) for an "IT guy" position? Of course you do.

[Dr. Gigglepants]

Our 16 YO daughter has already been told by her mgmt at McDonald's that no one will be scheduled for more than 28 hours this summer due to the new insurance rules. They are leaving a 4 hour buffer in case someone needs to be called in. I'm not sure if managers are included in that or if it is just for employees. I realize McDonalds is a franchise, so it may not be like that at every one. But, this is happening.
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[loochy]

Originally Posted by Dr. Gigglepants

Our 16 YO daughter has already been told by her mgmt at McDonald's that no one will be scheduled for more than 28 hours this summer due to the new insurance rules. They are leaving a 4 hour buffer in case someone needs to be called in. I'm not sure if managers are included in that or if it is just for employees. I realize McDonalds is a franchise, so it may not be like that at every one. But, this is happening.
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For what it's worth, they did that to me back in college at all of my jobs...

[Dr. Gigglepants]

Not to me. I always got 40 hours at my jobs.
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[Otter]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Sorry no one bought your horseshit story. No reason to be pissed at me. Come up with something better next time.

If you promise to leave the board on a bet I'll provide the company names and you can email or call human resources to check if they require physicals.

Sound fair?

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by FD

Is that what happened when Massachusetts implemented a similar plan?

Shhhhh, don't disturb the self-reinforcing bubble.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by loochy

For what it's worth, they did that to me back in college at all of my jobs...

no shit. If employers can figure out a way to get out of paying benefits, they will. It's a business. Increasing profit is the idea.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

I was having a conversation earlier today with some senior business types who think Obamacare will result in a massive change in how employers handle employees, with many effectively switching to a multiple part-time employee system, shared-shifts (or whatever it's called, when you've got one person who works mornings, and another who works afternoons), all with the goal of avoiding the minimum hours worked thresholds that trigger the requirements on employers.

Why would any employer that's already offering healthcare do this?

Red Lobster tried limiting employees' hours like this. Eventually they decided it just wasn't worth it and they'd be better off just biting the bullet and providing healthcare. It's not like there is zero drawback to companies for only offering part-time jobs. Part-time workers are less efficient, it takes twice as much training to get two people up to speed, and they're generally not satisfied. So they bolt as soon as something better comes along. Plus you still have to face all the lawsuit liabilities, unemployment insurance liabilities, and all the other overhead that goes with hiring an employee.

There will probably be a few companies that limit their employee ihours like fast food chains. Many of them already do that anyway to get around other existing benefits their company gives full-time workers. But for the most part a fundamental shift in the way most companies hire seems an extremely unlikely possibility.

Two years from now when none of this comes to pass, I'm sure you guys will issue a big "my bad" and seriously rethink the latest conservative outrage/end of the world that's imminent from some Democrat policy, right?

[Fairplay]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

An IT guy. And they stripped you naked to look for "scars, needle marks, bite marks...?"

The doctors nickname is "pervo Pete, he'll check your meat"

[Otter]

Originally Posted by Fairplay

The doctors nickname is "pervo Pete, he'll check your meat"

Heh, am I really the only one who had to take a physical for a job? I find that hard to believe.