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Old 03-24-2015, 04:08 PM  
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Broke apart in mid-air Germanwings
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Old 03-26-2015, 11:05 AM   #121
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True, if you are going down, you may as well go down slamming against the door.
Yep, and they were going to slam against the door regardless.
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Old 03-26-2015, 11:07 AM   #122
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Do we know the breathing they hear is the co-pilot. Maybe Pilot was lax with rules and left the door ajar a bit. A passenger up to no good slips in lock it behind forces copilot to put it in decent. Then offs copilot and takes over for finale crash.

Hot sturdy are these doors? I know they were fortified after 911 but how much force could it withstand. Seems with 150 passenger in desperate fight for there life some could have teamed up with pilot to ram it open. Seems very planed to me.
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Old 03-26-2015, 11:10 AM   #123
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Do we know the breathing they hear is the co-pilot. Maybe Pilot was lax with rules and left the door ajar a bit. A passenger up to no good slips in lock it behind forces copilot to put it in decent. Then offs copilot and takes over for finale crash.

Hot sturdy are these doors? I know they were fortified after 911 but how much force could it withstand. Seems with 150 passenger in desperate fight for there life some could have teamed up with pilot to ram it open. Seems very planed to me.
That seems very plausible..............
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Old 03-26-2015, 11:10 AM   #124
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Whoa. I wouldn't have guessed that at all. I guess it's a hard thing to put in a marketing message, though.
Yeah, the main thing is that we don't really think of all the times when things like the landing gear doesn't come down, fires in the cockpit, loss of pressure, etc. Most of the time when something goes wrong, they're able to get it on the ground with all the passengers safe.

Certainly if you define a "accident" as "nose dive into a mountain," the stat would be much more dire, but those kinds of accidents are pretty rare.
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Old 03-26-2015, 11:11 AM   #125
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Unfortunately, pilot suicides/murders aren't unheard of. Fortunately, they are extremely rare:

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Old 03-26-2015, 11:27 AM   #126
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Yep, and they were going to slam against the door regardless.
Hard enough to open it as well, but just a little too late to do any good.
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You can do a 1G roll.
But not smoothly enough for the passengers not to notice, right?
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Old 03-26-2015, 11:30 AM   #128
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But not smoothly enough for the passengers not to notice, right?
Believe it or not, yes, it can be done. Presuming they aren't looking out the windows.

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Do we know the breathing they hear is the co-pilot. Maybe Pilot was lax with rules and left the door ajar a bit. A passenger up to no good slips in lock it behind forces copilot to put it in decent. Then offs copilot and takes over for finale crash.

Hot sturdy are these doors? I know they were fortified after 911 but how much force could it withstand. Seems with 150 passenger in desperate fight for there life some could have teamed up with pilot to ram it open. Seems very planed to me.
They already confirmed that the co-pilot was alone.
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They already confirmed that the co-pilot was alone.
And how does the flight voice recorder determine this?
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And how does the flight voice recorder determine this?
pilots and crew have a code they can punch in to access the flight deck, but this can be overridden by the pilot or co-pilot to keep everyone out. No one else would know how to do that.
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And how does the flight voice recorder determine this?
If they could hear the pounding on the door, they would hear someone coming in and killing the co-pilot. Unless it was a Ninja. Which is unlikely.
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If they could hear the pounding on the door, they would hear someone coming in and killing the co-pilot. Unless it was a Ninja. Which is unlikely.
that too, if there was any kind of struggle, the voice recorder would have heard it.
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If they could hear the pounding on the door, they would hear someone coming in and killing the co-pilot. Unless it was a Ninja. Which is unlikely.
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If they could hear the pounding on the door, they would hear someone coming in and killing the co-pilot. Unless it was a Ninja. Which is unlikely.
Ninja's? I hadn't thought about that. Something to consider.........
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