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irishjayhawk · 03-23-2009, 08:44 PM

Anyone watching this magnificent show?

Stanley Nickels · 09-15-2013, 08:24 PM

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It was masterful in that, by delaying it, they made it more impactful and gave Hank the ending he deserved.

Just cutting to Hank and Gomie both being dead at the beginning of the episode wouldn't have had nearly the effect.

And it provided a perfect opportunity to reiterate that Walt was always something of an outsider in the DEA-cartel chess game. Both Hank and Uncle Himmler knew the score, and both knew Walt's opportunity to negotiate was a stupid, useless error

NewChief · 09-15-2013, 08:24 PM

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God, I hope not. It wasn't Walt who stopped Pinkman's execution early in this previous episode, so I certainly hope they don't play the "then it was for Walt's real family, now Pinkman's the only family he has left" route.

He's clearly feeling remorse at this point and realizing how horribly he's ****ed up (since he cleared his family and left Holly to be found at the fire station). I don't see it as a huge stretch for even more passage of time making him want to right the wrongs of his last few days.

Not saying I like it.. but I think that's the predictable route. But Gilligan isn't predictable, so I really hope I'm wrong and something unexpected happens.

On top of that, he just supplied a white supremacist organization with millions of dollars in cash which may or may not play on his conscience even more as it goes on.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-15-2013, 08:26 PM

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The initial direction of that episode was unfortunate, but it almost played out as a giant middle finger from Gilligan. The aryans complying with Walt's "no family" cop-out would've been a really predictable direction, and this show has never really taken the easy route. Teasing as much was like Vince was saying "I could, but I won't."

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No shit. Pure freaking evil... though I think he's going to strive for redemption from here out. My (rather obvious) guess is that the machine gun is to try to rescue Jessie from AB.

The episode was excellent in its ability to evoke pathos. I'm disappointed that they didn't show Gomie's death, as I feel that his character deserved the act of witness.

And Walt does need to rescue Jessie, but doing should grant him no redemption or clemency, although I'm sure the audience will be willing to grant it.

On another note, Jr's reaction struck me as a railroad spike in the coffin of Skyler's tactical stupidity. She's not just a coward, but a fool, like her husband.

cosmo20002 · 09-15-2013, 08:29 PM

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That may have been the most intense hour of TV I've ever seen

The opening scene was unneeded filler, but the rest, yeah--intense.

NewChief · 09-15-2013, 08:31 PM

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The opening scene was unneeded filler, but the rest, yeah--intense.

Yeah. I can't believe how much freaking ground the covered in that episode considering the opening scene advanced nothing.

cosmo20002 · 09-15-2013, 08:32 PM

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No shit. Pure freaking evil... though I think he's going to strive for redemption from here out. My (rather obvious) guess is that the machine gun is to try to rescue Jessie from AB.

I think it is to rescue his money. Or at least punish them for taking it.

NewChief · 09-15-2013, 08:35 PM

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I think it is to rescue his money. Or at least punish them for taking it.

I don't know. I think Walt has "broken" at this point, realized it, and the rest of his life is an unsuccessful attempt to find redemption. In other words, I don't think that greed will be his motivating factor any longer. I could be misreading, though.

ragedogg69 · 09-15-2013, 08:36 PM

I just love how calculated walt is. Taking Holly, the phone call and then giving Holly to the FD. Not mentioning the Nazis. All to save his family.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-15-2013, 08:36 PM

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I think it is to rescue his money. Or at least punish them for taking it.

That money will have been long gone and dispersed by then. And if he wants to punish them for taking it, he should save the first bullet for himself. What kind of a ****ing moron would ever trust that an Aryan Brotherhood boss wouldn't just **** him over at his earliest convenience?

NewChief · 09-15-2013, 08:38 PM

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I just love how calculated walt is. Taking Holly, the phone call and then giving Holly to the FD. Not mentioning the Nazis. All to save his family.

Yes. But he completely shit his pants at the critical juncture with the AB. As soon as he mentioned the money out there, it was as good as gone. He's lucky Jack didn't take it all and leave him in the hole with Gomey and Hank.

I also don't think taking Holly was calculated. That was panicking Walt.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-15-2013, 08:38 PM

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I just love how calculated walt is. Taking Holly, the phone call and then giving Holly to the FD. Not mentioning the Nazis. All to save his family.

The guy who gave up about $68 million in an attempt to convince a two-bit thug not to kill a federal agent whom his gang had already shot is calculated?

NewChief · 09-15-2013, 08:39 PM

Have you ever seen a penny in a gravity well? The last two episodes have been Walt in the accelerated spiral leading to his final break. He's now done and dropped through the other side, imo.

Zebedee DuBois · 09-15-2013, 08:42 PM

Baby Holly finally gets some actual face time on screen - and delivers her lines perfectly!

cosmo20002 · 09-15-2013, 08:43 PM

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That money will have been long gone and dispersed by then. And if he wants to punish them for taking it, he should save the first bullet for himself. What kind of a ****ing moron would ever trust that an Aryan Brotherhood boss wouldn't just **** him over at his earliest convenience?

No honor among thieves, but he never planned on letting them know exactly where the money was. He's just gotta really be pissed they just stole it from him.

Although I'm not really sure why Jack would be so generous as to leave him a barrel. I know he said it was because of Todd, but still, I'm sure sociopath Todd would get over it if Jack put Walt in that hole and kept the extra $10M.

I think the ricin is for Walt.

Stanley Nickels · 09-15-2013, 08:44 PM

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I also don't think taking Holly was calculated. That was panicking Walt.

Exactly. Cunning≠calculated.

I just don't see how this show can sell Walt rescuing Jesse, figuring that Walt nodded approval for his execution, and only once he was aware that Jesse wouldnt' die that day, then threw salt on the wound by telling him about Jane. When he did that, I got really upset, and I'm almost never the type to react emotionally to a TV show. What a great scene and episode.

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