Your Chance To Participate In A New Football Phenomenon (Sandbox Simulations)

[Rain Man]

I apologize if the mods think this is soliciting, and I guess it is, but at the same time it's beta testing a new product developed by long-time planeteers, and it's free.

cdcox and I have been developing a new football game for the thoughtful fan, where players build franchises and compete against each other. A description is below.

If you're interested, we're offering the game for free in Year 1 to Chiefsplanet members, with the goal of both giving the system a dry run and also hooking you like Phillip Morris. You can go to www.sandboxsimulations.com to sign up, and use the access code 6Lanier3.

Here's the overview:

Build and manage a full 53-player roster over multiple seasons, as an offseason activity to give you year-round football

Select your personnel to match your offensive and defensive scheme. Every position matters – even your blocking tight end.

Realistic and accurate simulations of league games based on head-to-head matchups against other teams in your league.


This is essentially a new concept in fantasy football that attempts to simulate as closely as possible the management of a real NFL franchise over a multi-year period. Unlike regular fantasy football, every position on the offense and defense contributes to your success or failure. On special teams, the punter, kicker, and kick returners matter.

In Sandbox Football you will build a team – an entire 53-man football team – via an initial draft, and will maintain it year after year in annual rookie drafts, trading periods, and free agency. You compete against teams in your league. In the first year of the game, before the start of the NFL season, you will build your roster by drafting veterans and rookies through separate drafts, and through trades with other teams in the league. Your roster is frozen at the beginning of the NFL season. During the real regular NFL season, you can focus on your traditional fantasy games and perhaps keep on eye on your Sandbox roster as our statistical models build the data on player performances. At the end of the regular NFL season, the Sandbox season begins. There will be 16 games in the season. In real time, the season will run about 8 weeks (2 alternate reality games per week).

Game outcomes will be simulated based on the performance of individual players during the just-completed NFL regular season. The simulations, developed by a PhD statistical expert, estimate how individual players will perform in the context of your alternate reality team competing head-to-head against other teams in the league and with the specific team that you have built. The simulations will consider the offensive and defensive schemes that you select. So you can build your roster to support a power running game or a high-flying passing attack. You can run a 3-4 or 4-3 base defense. You can run nickel formations or four-wide receiver sets. You can rotate your DL to keep them fresh.

The game is more about building a team than playing video games. So this isn't Madden, but you will have the ability to tweak your game plan to take the best advantage of your roster and the weaknesses of your opponent. Injuries are a factor in the game. If a player is unavailable during weeks 3 through 6 in the NFL, he is also unavailable during the same weeks in the alternate reality season. So roster depth matters. The game simulations are based on the most advanced statistics and the latest research regarding what matters in winning an NFL game. But, the outcomes of the games have a random component, just like real NFL games.

The calendar for the alternate reality league year will look something like this:
• Jan to Mid March: Alternate Reality regular season and playoffs.
• Mid-March to the beginning of NFL season: Roster building through trades, veteran draft (first year), free agent drafts (2nd year and beyond), and rookie draft.
• Beginning of NFL season to end of regular NFL season: Alternate reality league is dormant, but the NFL players are generating their performance stats for the up-coming AR league.
• Rinse and repeat.

Copyright Sandbox Simulations, all rights reserved.

We're still finalizing the cost structure, but this won't be an expensive game to play at all. It might range from a few bucks a year to $50 per year, depending on a few factors.

Year 1 will require a couple of days of drafting with rather high intensity, but we've got it set up where you can put your draft list together and do customized and automated drafting if you like.

So...go! Now! Time to get ready for the draft!




Note that we are still in beta testing, so things could change if we find problems in the system.


How Free Agency Works:

Free Agency will begin before the 2012 season after the rookie draft.

Our process is as follows for the 2012 season. In 2013 and beyond there will be minor changes as noted later.

1. We will unveil the list of available free agents so you can check out the talent pool.

2. If you look in "Standings", you will see that you have a salary account value of $1,300. You will use this to sign your veterans to contracts, sign your rookies to contracts, and (in a competitive bidding process) sign free agents to contracts.

The cost of a contract is as follows for players already on your roster (both veterans and rookies).

$0 - 1 season contract
$10 - 2 season contract
$22 - 3 season contract
$37 - 4 season contract
$55 - 5 season contract
$76 - 6 season contract
$100 - 7 season contract

You will sign your existing players to contracts using an interface that we will unveil shortly. If your 53-man roster is set you can spend your $1,300 on your current roster. However, it may be worthwhile to hold some money back so you can compete for free agents.

3. The free agency period begins.

Bidding for free agents will be open and competitive. As players come available, teams will be allowed to sign them if they are the high bidder. The contract length is automatically calculated by rounding down the bid to the chart below.

Contract Length (Seasons) Salary Points Bid
1 0 to 9
2 10 to 21
3 22 to 36
4 37 to 54
5 55 to 75
6 76 to 99
7 100 or more

For example, if you submit the winning bid for a player at a price of 25 salary points, that player becomes yours under a 3-year contract. If you submit a bid for 35 points and win, it’s also a 3-year contract. If you submit a bid for 38 points, it’s a 4-year contract. If you submit a bid for 120 points, it’s a 7-year contract.

For the 2012 free agency period, we will enforce the 53-man rule. You will need to cut down to 53 players before the free agency period starts, and if you sign a player to go above 53, you will need to cut a player to stay within the roster limit. NOTE: DON'T CUT YET UNLESS YOU WANT TO. WE'RE STILL FINALIZING THE SYSTEM AND WANT TO BE SURE THAT THIS RULE WORKS IN 2012.

4. Ending Bidding and Ending Free Agency.

Bids on an individual player will begin once the first player places a bid. For the 2012 season that bid must be $1 or more. Bidding ends when the existing high bid had not been raised for 72 hours. At that point, the high-bid team is awarded the player under the contract terms described in Step 3.

The free agency period in 2012 will end once there have been no bids on any players for 72 hours.

5. Unused Salary Points

If you do not use all of your salary points in a given year, they will roll over from year to year. This is experimental and we'll have to see how it works. If it doesn't work, they'll expire each year, or maybe a portion of the points can roll over. Right now, assume they all roll over.

6. Salary Points and Roster Management

In the Sandbox system, salary points and the salary cap are used only for acquiring players. You will never have to track the number of salary points “on your roster” and you will never have to cut a player for salary cap reasons.

Additionally, you are not obligated to keep a player for the full length of his contract. You can cut him or trade him at any time. However, recognize that it’s a waste of salary points to cut or trade a player before the end of his contract. But it doesn't hamstring you going forward - it's just past money that you wasted.

7. Free Agency and Contract Length - Retaining Your Current Players

When a player reaches the end of their contract, they go back into the free agency pool and teams will bid for their services. You are eligible to bid on them to get them back, just like you can bid on any free agents.

There is one exception to the rule of free agents going into the free agency pool, as follows:

• At the end of the bidding process, you have the opportunity to re-sign your own players by outbidding the high bidder. Your bid must be the minimum points to increase their contract period by a year over the high bid. (Example: your player goes to free agency, and another team bids 50 points for him, which equates to a 4-year contract. You can keep the player by paying 55 points for him, which is the minimum amount for a 5-year contract.) If the high bidder offered a contract of 100 points or more (7-years), you can keep the player by bidding 10% more points than the high bid.

8. Free Agency and Trades

If you trade for a player, their contract length is a consideration. Trading for a player with 6 years left on his contract will give you his services for that amount of time (unless you cut him or trade him, or he retires). Trading for a player with 1 year left on his contract means that he’ll go back into the free agency pool at the end of the season. (Of course, you can still retain him via Step 7.)

9. Future Years

In future years, the process will be identical to that shown above, with the following exceptions.

a. Because you will have a lot of veteran players under contract, you won't need $1,300. You'll get a new annual allotment of signing dollars. We're still working on the exact amount, but it looks like it'll be between $500 and $600.

b. In the 2012 season, we will introduce all free agents at once to catch up. In the 2013 season and beyond, the free agency period will occur during the actual NFL season. We will sprinkle the free agents in one division at a time over the course of the season. (The divisions may be randomly selected or we may release a calendar. It doesn't matter that much.) This system should be interesting because some free agents will come available early in the season when you don't know their performance for the year - greater risk, greater reward - while other free agents will come available later in the season when you know what their performance will be, but so does everyone else.

c. In the 2013 season and beyond, you will be able to retain more than 53 players through the rookie draft and the main free agency period. You will then have a cutdown period to get to 53 and we will have a final free agency period where you can sign any players who have been cut. In that final period you will have to enforce a 53-man roster, so if you sign a player you have to cut one.

10. When you think about the schedule in 2013 and beyond, it will go like this:

a. Sandbox season goes from February through April.
b. Rookie draft in May. No 53-man limit.
c. Free agency from (likely) September through December, with free agents sprinkled in throughout that period.
d. January. Roster cuts to 53.
e. Late January. Final free agency period to flesh out rosters and sign players cut in Step d.
f. New Sandbox season begins.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Old Dog

**** no, I didn't intend that! I logged in specifically to set my lineups set yesterday morning.
Now pardon me if this comes off as pissy, and I know you're woking on things, but if I had paid for this, I would have passed pissed about four exits back.
Just not gonna say a whole lot more right now, because nothing would come out as appropriate.

Sorry to see that, and I'm curious what's happening there.

I doubt it has anything to do with this, but what type of system are you running? And were you having lineup problems in Weeks 1 through 3? It seems like we had some sim errors in Weeks 4 and 5, but everyone else seemed fine in Week 6.

These are obviously things we need to take care of before going commercial.

[Rain Man]

Oh, and in the Springfield-Richmond game, the half ended on a defensive penalty.

Springfield
2nd Q 0:55 1st and 10 Springfield 26 Joseph Addai rushes for -1 yards.
2nd Q 0:05 2nd and 11 Springfield 25 DeAngelo Williams rushes for 4 yards. PENALTY. Personal Foul on Dashon Goldson. 15 yards.
Springfield 13, Richmond 10

[Rain Man]

Hmm, something odd happened with the penalty yardage here. Shouldn't the ball have been moved back 25 yards?

Lexington
4th Q 6:37 1st and 10 Independence 48 Laurence Maroney rushes for 5 yards.
4th Q 5:55 2nd and 5 Independence 44 Laurence Maroney rushes for -1 yards.
4th Q 5:13 3rd and 6 Independence 44 Mark Sanchez (pressured) passes complete to Devery Henderson for a gain of 20 yards.
4th Q 4:28 1st and 10 Independence 25 Laurence Maroney rushes for 2 yards.
4th Q 3:46 2nd and 8 Independence 22 Mark Sanchez (pressured) passes incomplete to Jabar Gaffney.
4th Q 3:39 3rd and 8 Independence 22 Laurence Maroney rushes for 8 yards.
4th Q 2:57 1st and 10 Independence 15 free agent rushes for 0 yards.
4th Q 2:15 2nd and 10 Independence 15 Mark Sanchez sacked by Robert Mathis for a loss of -10 yards. PENALTY. Personal Foul on Mark Clayton. -15 yards.
4th Q 2:07 2nd and 25 Independence 30 Mark Sanchez (pressured) passes complete to Nate Burleson for a gain of 5 yards. Two minute warning.
4th Q 1:59 3rd and 20 Independence 24 Mark Sanchez passes, batted at the line of scrimage incomplete.
4th Q 1:52 4th and 20 Independence 24 Mark Sanchez (pressured) passes incomplete to Mark Clayton.
Independence 28, Lexington 21

[Rain Man]

I think we narrowly avoided a safety here, which is good even though I'd like to see the safety part of the system to be sure it works. However, the yard marker is blank. It might be good to have a "Six-inch line" or some such thing instead of a blank. Of course, it's easy to figure out what's going on, so it's not a big deal.

Columbia
1st Q 3:40 1st and 10 Columbia 2 Steven Jackson rushes for -2 yards.
1st Q 2:58 2nd and 12 PENALTY. False Start Wes Welker half the distance to the goal.
1st Q 2:58 2nd and 12 Ryan Fitzpatrick (pressured) passes incomplete, dropped by Vincent Jackson.
1st Q 2:51 3rd and 12 Ryan Fitzpatrick (pressured) scrambles for 3 yards.
1st Q 2:09 4th and 9 Columbia 3 Sam Koch punts 41 yards, returned for 2 yards by free agent
Columbia 0, Pembroke Pines 0

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by Old Dog

**** no, I didn't intend that! I logged in specifically to set my lineups set yesterday morning.
Now pardon me if this comes off as pissy, and I know you're woking on things, but if I had paid for this, I would have passed pissed about four exits back.
Just not gonna say a whole lot more right now, because nothing would come out as appropriate.

Your frustration is completely understandable and all I can say at this point is that I am sorry. You have certainly been on ths short end of the stick more than most. I still do not know how that could even happen, so it is frustrating to me too. I can't even get it to reproduce so I know what the problem is.

Again I am sorry for the problems.

[Old Dog]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Oh, and in the Springfield-Richmond game, the half ended on a defensive penalty.

Mine ended in a defensive penalty as well.

[Old Dog]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Sorry to see that, and I'm curious what's happening there.

I doubt it has anything to do with this, but what type of system are you running? And were you having lineup problems in Weeks 1 through 3?

This probably isn't what you're after, but Windows XP Pro??? Lemme know what you're looking for and I'll try to figure it out.
I didn't have any glaring issues other than not being able to put a WR (don't remember who) in a specific WR slot, though that has been fixed.


I still think it's nuts that an elite punt returner wouldn't also be an elite kick returner as well if a team were to choose to use him as such, but that's an opinion issue, not one of the game itself.

[Rain Man]

I'm very excited about our first punt block. It's a very minor thing, but we don't get a writeup about what happened after the punt block (defense recovered, return, etc.) It's pretty obvious in most cases, but could cause confusion if it results in a touchdown at some point.

Pembroke Pines
4th Q 14:10 Mike Nugent kicks 70 yards. No return. Touchback
4th Q 14:02 1st and 10 Pembroke Pines 20 Ryan Grant rushes for 0 yards.
4th Q 13:20 2nd and 10 Pembroke Pines 20 Ryan Grant rushes for 11 yards.
4th Q 12:38 1st and 10 Pembroke Pines 31 Matt Ryan (pressured) passes complete to Austin Collie for a gain of 3 yards.
4th Q 11:53 2nd and 7 Pembroke Pines 33 Matt Ryan passes incomplete, dropped by Austin Collie.
4th Q 11:46 3rd and 7 Pembroke Pines 33 Matt Ryan (pressured) passes incomplete, dropped by Early Doucet.
4th Q 11:39 4th and 7 Pembroke Pines 33 Shane Lechler punt blocked.
Columbia 14, Pembroke Pines 21

Columbia
4th Q 11:27 1st and 10 Pembroke Pines 15 Steven Jackson rushes for -1 yards.
4th Q 10:45 2nd and 11 Pembroke Pines 16 Ryan Fitzpatrick sacked by Jason Babin for a loss of -9 yards.
4th Q 10:09 3rd and 20 Pembroke Pines 26 Ryan Fitzpatrick passes incomplete to Vincent Jackson.
4th Q 10:02 4th and 20 Pembroke Pines 26 Mike Nugent field goal attempt from 43 yards. Good.
Columbia 17, Pembroke Pines 21

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Old Dog

This probably isn't what you're after, but Windows XP Pro??? Lemme know what you're looking for and I'll try to figure it out.
I didn't have any glaring issues other than not being able to put a WR (don't remember who) in a specific WR slot, though that has been fixed.


I still think it's nuts that an elite punt returner wouldn't also be an elite kick returner as well if a team were to choose to use him as such, but that's an opinion issue, not one of the game itself.

Yeah, I think we need to work on the return game a little.

If you're on Windows XP I doubt that's the problem. I was just wondering if perhaps you're using something mobile or WebTV or something, perhaps there could be an issue. But I know absolutely nothing about this.

[cdcox]

Old Dog, what browser?

[Old Dog]

IE 9

[DJ's left nut]

Not sure if this is an issue w/ injuries, etc... but it seems like every week I need to re-set my O-line and make Dez Bryant my #2 wideout ahead of Jason Hill and a street FA. It also keeps benching Kevin Burnett in favor of Dhani Jones at my ILB slot.

Just some nuances with the roster setups that could use some tweaking. It doesn't seem to use the roster spots like a true depth chart (i.e. if I put Bryant as my WR2 and he can't play it, it shouldn't just put a street FA there and bench Bryant until I realize he needs to be put back in).

[cdcox]

I've advanced rosters to week 7.

Game sims sometime tomorrow night.

OldDog's roster issue is still unresolved, so you should refresh the page to make sure the changes took. Might try a different browser.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by cdcox

I've advanced rosters to week 7.
.

Hard to believe we're halfway done with season 1.

When will we have the next draft?

This is going to be an awesome product.

[Hammock Parties]

OK. I made some radical changes in my offensive gameplan and blitz percentages. We'll see what effect they have. I also benched Reggie Bush just for kicks.

Caleb Hanie games are good for experimenting.