Chiefs It has gone beyond embarrassing - Page 12

**petegz28** · 12-09-2012, 03:03 PM

When you lose the way we did against Cleveland you suddenly find yourself staring at 2-11 and being embarrassed would be an improvement. Today we saw in a nutshell the complete and utter stupidity that Pioli has spent the better part of 4 years putting together.

We bitched about this team early in the season, gave up on them mid-way and now actually root for a loss in hopes for a good draft spot. Unfortunately a new QB, regardless of who it is or how high he is drafted, is not going to help this sorry ass compilation of fail and suck.

Think about the mess Pioli has created in just under 4 years that we now have to clean up in a hurry, somehow.

1. No QB's
2. No WR's...Bowe will walk leaving us with nothing worth a ****
3. No LT, I expect Albert to walk from this abortion
4. No DE's, Dorsey will walk and TJ still sucks
5. No punter..Colquitt can walk this year
6. No secondary, save flowers
7. 1 RB worth a shit
8. No Center worth a ****
9. No HC worth a ****
10. No OC worth a ****
11. No DC worth a ****
12. No ST coach worth a ****
13. No kicker worth a ****

So as I see it, we need at least 2 QB's, 2 WR's, a center, 2 DE's, 2 CB's, 1-2 Safetys, a HC, an OC, a DC, a ST coach, a kicker, a punter and of course a new GM

/rant off

htismaqe · 12-10-2012, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

No way, another Cassel

Wanting Barkley is claiming you are a Casselite.

There's simply NO WAY you can objectively say that, at least not at this point.

Barkley started 4 YEARS at USC. Matt Cassel started 4 QUARTERS...

At a position OTHER THAN QB.

ndws · 12-10-2012, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

it's a Mccluster ****

Fixed it for ya

TEX · 12-10-2012, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

You see! It's too risky. The Jags have done what you guys are pining for and they are horrible. /truefan

It's not as risky as it once was with the new collective bargaining agreement. In fact - there has never been a "safer" time to draft a BUST at # 1.

htismaqe · 12-10-2012, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

I'll be honest. I saw cousins tonight and was pissed we didn't draft him and I'd throw a 2nd round pick his way b/c he's better than gino or barkley

Wait, lemme...well...

**notorious** · 12-10-2012, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

You see! It's too risky. The Jags have done what you guys are pining for and they are horrible. /truefan

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Originally Posted by TEX

It's not as risky as it once was with the new collective bargaining agreement. In fact - there has never been a "safer" time to draft a BUST at # 1.

My sarcasm producer runs at 110% Monday morning.

htismaqe · 12-10-2012, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Cousins = Stanzi.

Stanzi = Cousins.

Get that through your tiny brains. He's a shitty Big 10 QB from a run first offense with a barely adequate pro arm.

Stanzi has a better arm. Period. Cousins is a little "safer" with his decision making.

Both of them are SEVERELY LIMITED in terms of NFL potential.

If Stanzi were in Washington, with MIKE SHANAHAN, he'd look like Cousins too.

The offense Stanzi ran in college is almost identical to Shanahan's. Zone blocking, cut the field in half, run the ball and playaction...

TEX · 12-10-2012, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

My sarcasm producer runs at 110% Monday morning.

Gotcha. Mine runs the other way, but I make up for it come mid week.

FlaChief58 · 12-10-2012, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

It's not as risky as it once was with the new collective bargaining agreement. In fact - there has never been a "safer" time to draft a BUST at # 1.

This. I don't get why the talking heads can't grasp that. QB is this teams biggest (but not only)weakness by far and has to be addressed early in the draft. We may not get a once in a decade guy but we can get a very good one. If not, draft another one in 2 years

htismaqe · 12-10-2012, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Flachief58

This. I don't get why the talking heads can't grasp that. QB is this teams biggest (but not only)weakness by far and has to be addressed early in the draft. We may not get a once in a decade guy but we can get a very good one. If not, draft another one in 2 years

Exactly.

That's the GREAT thing about how much the game revolves around the QB.

Picking the wrong QB doesn't get you mediocrity, it gets you another top 5 pick (see Jax).

If we take the wrong guy now, we'll be right back in this spot 2 years from now and can take someone else.

Keep trying until you get it right.

FAX · 12-10-2012, 09:21 AM

I'm beginning to lean toward an all-QB draft. We pick quarterbacks in every freaking round, let them battle it out for roster slots, and trade the ones who don't make the cut.

FAX

InChiefsHeaven · 12-10-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX

I'm beginning to lean toward an all-QB draft. We pick quarterbacks in every freaking round, let them battle it out for roster slots, and trade the ones who don't make the cut.

FAX

In all seriousness, I'd love it if we drafted like 3 QB's. Let em all fight it out. Can't do any worse...

mcaj22 · 12-10-2012, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

The fact that people don't think we need a multi-year rebuild is baffling to me.

even if you get a QB in the first round we will still need to put talent around him. 1 good RB wont cut it and holy shit the defense has more holes now than when Pioli got here four years ago

MLB2
CB2
FS
DE
and
DE

not to mention CB depth, Safety depth, MLBer depth, and D-line depth. We need all of that. Because everything thats there now is dog trash and that is obvious

Chief Faithful · 12-10-2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

You want embarrassing?

Wait until April when we have a Top 3 pick and don't take a QB.

That sir, is my single greatest fear as a Chiefs fan.

**The Franchise** · 12-10-2012, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

And the Jags will replace Gabbert in the draft.

They will have drafted TWO 1st-round QBs in ONE TENTH THE TIME WE'VE DRAFTED ONE.

I'm wondering if the Jags don't try and go defense and grab a QB in the late 1st....early 2nd. Maybe wait for a Barkley slide and trade up to get him.

**RealSNR** · 12-10-2012, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

even if you get a QB in the first round we will still need to put talent around him. 1 good RB wont cut it and holy shit the defense has more holes now than when Pioli got here four years ago

MLB2
CB2
FS
DE
and
DE

not to mention CB depth, Safety depth, MLBer depth, and D-line depth. We need all of that. Because everything thats there now is dog trash and that is obvious

If the QB and HC picks go right, we won't necessarily need more than half of those things. We can acquire them along the way as "Hey, this thing would be nice to have on the team" kind of picks.

Again, see Indianapolis.

12-09-2012, 03:03 PM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $2824127	It has gone beyond embarrassing When you lose the way we did against Cleveland you suddenly find yourself staring at 2-11 and being embarrassed would be an improvement. Today we saw in a nutshell the complete and utter stupidity that Pioli has spent the better part of 4 years putting together. We bitched about this team early in the season, gave up on them mid-way and now actually root for a loss in hopes for a good draft spot. Unfortunately a new QB, regardless of who it is or how high he is drafted, is not going to help this sorry ass compilation of fail and suck. Think about the mess Pioli has created in just under 4 years that we now have to clean up in a hurry, somehow. 1. No QB's 2. No WR's...Bowe will walk leaving us with nothing worth a ** 3. No LT, I expect Albert to walk from this abortion 4. No DE's, Dorsey will walk and TJ still sucks 5. No punter..Colquitt can walk this year 6. No secondary, save flowers 7. 1 RB worth a shit 8. No Center worth a 9. No HC worth a 10. No OC worth a 11. No DC worth a 12. No ST coach worth a 13. No kicker worth a ** So as I see it, we need at least 2 QB's, 2 WR's, a center, 2 DE's, 2 CB's, 1-2 Safetys, a HC, an OC, a DC, a ST coach, a kicker, a punter and of course a new GM /rant off
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FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	I'm beginning to lean toward an all-QB draft. We pick quarterbacks in every freaking round, let them battle it out for roster slots, and trade the ones who don't make the cut. FAX
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