John Dorsey's Big Board

Direckshun · 02-26-2015, 02:04 PM

What a scoop for us here in DraftPlanet. Yours truly just got John Dorsey's leaked big board for the 1st rounder.

This is assuming the Chiefs do nothing more than MOVE UP three spots or TRADE DOWN three spots. As a result, all unrealistic picks are out of consideration.

John Dorsey's 1st round big board:

1. Trae Waynes
2. Trae Waynes
3. Trae Waynes

Seriously, no player in this draft better fits what Dorsey likes in a position more than Trae Waynes does at corner. Waynes plays extremely aggressive and could be a flag machine in the NFL, but he's got so many physical tools that I'm sure the Chiefs fully believe they could transform him into a lockdown CB.

4. Cedric Ogbuehi
5. T.J. Clemmings

You're talking about tackles with incredible physical tools that need considerable technique work. Ogbuehi is pretty much exactly what Dorsey likes in the size/athleticism/arm length department, and Clemmings isn't quite as thick, but is just as fine everywhere else.

6. Alvin Dupree

The Chiefs don't particularly need a passrusher, but Dupree is such a rare athlete, still new to the position, with incredible upside. The Chiefs desperately value athleticism, and Dupree ran a 4.56 at 270 lbs.

7. DeVante Parker
8. Dorial Green-Beckham

The Chiefs need to boost their WR corps, and both of these WRs have at least a CHANCE to drop to around #15. Parker is probably desperately valued by the Chiefs, with his great athleticism and YAC ability that the Chiefs will need with Alex Smith under center. DGB less so, but has irresistable physical talents.

9. Andrus Peat

The OT version of Dontari Poe, Peat has some ridonkulous thighs. Peat may drop, and he's got nearly 35" arms, which let's face it, seems to be all Dorsey cares about.

10. Sammie Coates
11. Eddie Goldman

The Chiefs gotta adore both of these players, but I'd say they are unlikely to select either one because of the options ahead of them. Coates dropped a bit for me, from "slam dunk Dorsey 1st rounder" to "dark horse candidate" when he didn't run the low 4.3 I was expecting him to run. Goldman is pretty much perfect as a NT in our defense, but it's unlikely the Chiefs are going to make a 3rd high investment on the DL considering how often they play dime.

12. La'el Collins
13. Cameron Erving

The Chiefs love solid lineman who can play multiple positions. I don't see either one of these guys becoming Chiefs in the 1st, but they do fit what the Chiefs like.

Nightfyre · 02-26-2015, 02:06 PM

Which is more fun to say: Waynes and Gaines or Gaines and Waynes?

Direckshun · 02-26-2015, 02:13 PM

Dante84 · 02-26-2015, 02:20 PM

I'd like to see the list of players who aren't going to be in range, so I know not to hope for.

Example. I wanted ODB for a long time and then he blew up, only to break my heart and get selected way before us.

Direckshun · 02-26-2015, 02:27 PM

Players I consider out of our range:

QB Jameis Winston, Florida State
QB Marcus Mariota, Oregon
RB Melvin Gordon, Wisconsin
WR Amari Cooper, Alabama
WR Kevin White, West Virginia
OT Ereck Flowers, Miami
DT Leonard Williams, USC
DT Danny Shelton, Washington
DE/OLB Dante Fowler Jr., Florida
DE/OLB Vic Beasley, Clemson
DE/OLB Randy Gregory, Nebraska
DE/OLB Shane Ray, Missouri
S Landon Collins, Alabama

KC native · 02-26-2015, 02:58 PM

redshirt32 · 02-26-2015, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Players I consider out of our range:

QB Jameis Winston, Florida State
QB Marcus Mariota, Oregon
RB Melvin Gordon, Wisconsin
WR Amari Cooper, Alabama
WR Kevin White, West Virginia
OT Ereck Flowers, Miami
DT Leonard Williams, USC
DT Danny Shelton, Washington
DE/OLB Dante Fowler Jr., Florida
DE/OLB Vic Beasley, Clemson
DE/OLB Randy Gregory, Nebraska
DE/OLB Shane Ray, Missouri
S Landon Collins, Alabama

Id would say you need to add Trae Waynes to your list and drop S Collins just my two cents.

We have a better shot of getting Parker than Trae Waynes after his combine show, and I believe they said he only gave up two TDs in the last two years of college.

Got to have DBs in this pass happy NFL Waynes moved up big time imo.

Chief Roundup · 02-26-2015, 03:58 PM

I wouldn't be surprised to see us take La'el Collins in the first, if he falls that far, and then take Erving in the 2cd.

saphojunkie · 02-26-2015, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

I wouldn't be surprised to see us take La'el Collins in the first, if he falls that far, and then take Erving in the 2cd.

Gross.

kccrow · 02-26-2015, 07:46 PM

All but like 3 teams drafting ahead of KC need a CB, Waynes isn't going to be there so forget about it.

Just Passin' By · 02-26-2015, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

I wouldn't be surprised to see us take La'el Collins in the first, if he falls that far, and then take Erving in the 2cd.

Erving might not get out of round one.

**Bowser** · 02-26-2015, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

I wouldn't be surprised to see us take La'el Collins in the first, if he falls that far, and then take Erving in the 2cd.

I think they are targeting Collins in the first and Justin Hardy in the second.

RunKC · 02-26-2015, 10:06 PM

Devin Smith seems like a guy they would love

**Bowser** · 02-26-2015, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Devin Smith seems like a guy they would love

I'll take him over Torrey Smith

Nightfyre · 02-27-2015, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Gross.

Honestly, if either of those players are on the board at those respective picks, they are probably the BPA. If we could get Cameron Erving in the second, I would JIMP. Either of those guys could act as a contingency plan in the event Fisher does not hack it at LT.

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Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4403447	John Dorsey's Big Board What a scoop for us here in DraftPlanet. Yours truly just got John Dorsey's leaked big board for the 1st rounder. This is assuming the Chiefs do nothing more than MOVE UP three spots or TRADE DOWN three spots. As a result, all unrealistic picks are out of consideration. John Dorsey's 1st round big board: 1. Trae Waynes 2. Trae Waynes 3. Trae Waynes Seriously, no player in this draft better fits what Dorsey likes in a position more than Trae Waynes does at corner. Waynes plays extremely aggressive and could be a flag machine in the NFL, but he's got so many physical tools that I'm sure the Chiefs fully believe they could transform him into a lockdown CB. 4. Cedric Ogbuehi 5. T.J. Clemmings You're talking about tackles with incredible physical tools that need considerable technique work. Ogbuehi is pretty much exactly what Dorsey likes in the size/athleticism/arm length department, and Clemmings isn't quite as thick, but is just as fine everywhere else. 6. Alvin Dupree The Chiefs don't particularly need a passrusher, but Dupree is such a rare athlete, still new to the position, with incredible upside. The Chiefs desperately value athleticism, and Dupree ran a 4.56 at 270 lbs. 7. DeVante Parker 8. Dorial Green-Beckham The Chiefs need to boost their WR corps, and both of these WRs have at least a CHANCE to drop to around #15. Parker is probably desperately valued by the Chiefs, with his great athleticism and YAC ability that the Chiefs will need with Alex Smith under center. DGB less so, but has irresistable physical talents. 9. Andrus Peat The OT version of Dontari Poe, Peat has some ridonkulous thighs. Peat may drop, and he's got nearly 35" arms, which let's face it, seems to be all Dorsey cares about. 10. Sammie Coates 11. Eddie Goldman The Chiefs gotta adore both of these players, but I'd say they are unlikely to select either one because of the options ahead of them. Coates dropped a bit for me, from "slam dunk Dorsey 1st rounder" to "dark horse candidate" when he didn't run the low 4.3 I was expecting him to run. Goldman is pretty much perfect as a NT in our defense, but it's unlikely the Chiefs are going to make a 3rd high investment on the DL considering how often they play dime. 12. La'el Collins 13. Cameron Erving The Chiefs love solid lineman who can play multiple positions. I don't see either one of these guys becoming Chiefs in the 1st, but they do fit what the Chiefs like.
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