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Quarterbacks

1) Geno Smith – West Virginia (91.0)
2) Tyler Wilson – Arkansas (83.5)
3) Zac Dysert – Miami (OH) (83.5)
4) Matt Barkley – USC (82.0)
5) Mike Glennon – N.C. State (79.4)
6) Ryan Nassib – Syracuse (78.7)
7) EJ Manuel – Florida State (68.7)
8) Tyler Bray – Tennessee (67.8)
9) Landry Jones – Oklahoma (67.2)
10) Matt Scott – Arizona (55.4)

Running Backs

1) Giovani Bernard – North Carolina (84.0)
2) Eddie Lacy – Alabama (82.0)
3) Joseph Randle – Oklahoma State (80.6)
4) Andre Ellington – Clemson (79.7)
5) Stepfan Taylor – Stanford (75.6)
6) Montee Ball – Wisconsin (75.6)
7) Marcus Lattimore – South Carolina (74.9)
8) Johnathan Franklin – UCLA (72.3)
9) Christine Michael – Texas A&M (71.4)
10) Le’Veon Bell – Michigan State (71.2)

Wide Receivers

1) Cordarrelle Patterson – Tennessee (90.6)
2) DeAndre Hopkins – Clemson (87.8)
3) Keenan Allen – California (86.3)
4) Tavon Austin – West Virginia (85.4)
5) Quinton Patton – Louisiana Tech (83.8)
6) Terrance Williams – Baylor (83.6)
7) Robert Woods – USC (83.1)
8) Markus Wheaton – Oregon State (81.8)
9) Justin Hunter – Tennessee (81.8)
10) Stedman Bailey – West Virginia (79.0)

Offensive Line

1) Chance Warmack – OG-Alabama (95.9)
2) Luke Joeckel – OT- Texas A&M (95.3)
3) Erick Fisher – OT – Central Michigan (91.3)
4) Lane Johnson – OT- Oklahoma (86.9)
5) Jonathan Cooper – OG – North Carolina (86.9)
6) D.J. Fluker – OT – Alabama (85.5)
7) Larry Warford – OG – Kentucky (85.3)
8) Barrett Jones – OG – Alabama (85.1)
9) Dallas Thomas – OT – Tennessee (82.7)
10) Oday Oboushi – OT – Virginia (78.1)

Tight Ends

1) Tyler Eifert – Notre Dame (83.3)
2) Zach Ertz – Stanford (82.2)
3) Jordan Reed – Florida (80.5)
4) Travis Kelce – Cincinnati (80.0)
5) Gavin Escobar – San Diego State (79.0)
6) Philip Lutzenkirchen – Auburn (77.1)
7) Vance McDonald – Rice (76.0)
8) Chris Pantale – Boston College (68.5)
9) Dion Sims – Michigan State (67.0)
10) Levine Toilolo – Stanford (66.0)

Cornerbacks

1) Leon Sandcastle - ESPN (100)
1) Dee Milliner – Alabama (93.2)
2) Xavier Rhodes – Florida State (86.2)
3) Johnathan Banks – Florida International (84.4)
4) Desmond Trufant – Washington (84.1)
5) Robert Alford – Southeast Louisiana (81.1)
6) Leon McFadden – San Diego State (80.7)
7) Jamar Taylor – Boise State (79.5)
8) Blidi Wreh-Wilson – Connecticut (77.2)
9) David Amerson – N.C. State (74.4)
10) B.W. Webb – William & Mary (74.0)


Defensive Line

1) Barkevious Mingo – LSU - DE (92.8)
2) Star Lotulelei – Utah – DT (92.0)
3) Bjoern Werner – Florida State – DE (90.9)
4) Sheldon Richardson – Missouri – DT (90.7)
5) Sharrif Floyd – Florida – DT (90.3)
6) Ezekiel Ansah – BYU – DE (89.3)
7) Damontre Moore – Texas A&M – DE (89.2)
8) Dion Jordan – Oregon – DE (88.0)
9) Datone Jones – UCLA – DE (85.6)
10) Jesse Williams – Alabama – DT (85.5)

Linebackers

1) Arthur Brown – Kansas State – ILB (90.3)
2) Jarvis Jones – Georgia – OLB (88.8)
3) Manti Te’o – Notre Dame –ILB (87.5)
4) Alex Ogletree – Georgia – ILB (84.0)
5) Kevin Minter – LSU – ILB (84.0)
6) Sean Porter – Texas A&M – OLB (79.8)
7) Chase Thomas – Stanford – OLB (79.4)
8) Khaseem Greene – Rutgers – OLB (78.8)
9) Gerald Hodges – Penn State – OLB (72.4)
10) Michael Mauti – Penn State –ILB (71.8)

Safeties

1) Kenny Vaccaro – Texas – SS (87.7)
2) Eric Reid – LSU – FS (87.5)
3) John Cyprien – Florida International – FS (84.6)
4) D.J. Swearinger – South Carolina – SS (81.4)
5) Matt Elam – Florida – FS (80.0)
6) J.J. Wilcox – Georgia Southern – FS (77.0)
7) Shawn Williams – Georgia – SS (74.8)
8) Phillip Thomas – Fresno State – SS (74.1)
9) Tony Jefferson – Oklahoma – FS (73.2)
10) Zeke Motta – Notre Dame – SS (71.2)

Specialists (Of the Kickers and Punters receiving grades)

1) Dustin Hopkins – Florida State – K (69.5)
2) Quinn Sharp – Oklahoma State – K (61.9)
3) Caleb Sturgis – Florida – K (59.2)
4) Dylan Breeding – Arkansas – P (51.4)
5) Ryan Allen – Louisiana Tech – P (50.0)

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Old 02-09-2013, 11:35 AM   #16
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Based on this Geno is rated as the 7th best prospect.
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Old 02-09-2013, 02:21 PM   #17
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Old 02-09-2013, 03:05 PM   #18
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Based on this Geno is rated as the 7th best prospect.
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Old 02-09-2013, 03:05 PM   #19
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Old 02-09-2013, 03:07 PM   #20
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Haha. This guy was at the top of Pioli's draft board.

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1) Tyler Eifert – Notre Dame (83.3)
2) Zach Ertz – Stanford (82.2)
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4) Travis Kelce – Cincinnati (80.0)
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Old 02-09-2013, 03:41 PM   #21
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I haven't looked at the list at the site, but I' guessing that it's a list put together by that guy from Minnesota, and in no way reflects the thinking of Dorsey and. Reid.
Yeah, I just think that's very dangerous for their PR department to do if they are not planning to draft QB. This analysis, published on their site, makes Geno look like a pretty clear-cut, no-brainer #1 for this team.
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Old 02-09-2013, 03:53 PM   #22
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Amazing how Landry Jones stock dropped like a rock over the last year.
It's his own damn fault. He wanted that extra year in school. What for, I don't know. He had to have draft experts telling him, "Dude, you're not going to get any better or change anybody's mind. Declare now and maybe you can sneak in as a 2nd round pick"
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Other than Dion in a 'fro there is no clear stud in this draft.

Take the most talented player of need...
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We must take Warmack at no. 1 overall.
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What was his draft board? I haven't seen it.
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What was his draft board? I haven't seen it.
4 of his top 5 are fat guys. And then a fat RB. Classic Pioli.

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1. Luke Joeckel, T, Texas A&M. Strong candidate for the first overall pick. Three-year starter at left tackle in the Big 12 and never red-shirted. A true height-weight-speed prospect who plays with good athleticism and body control. Will play early while he develops better hip and core strength. Good teammate too.

2. Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama. One of the youngest players in the draft (20), but a very experienced corner from the best-coached DB group in the country. Milliner has the flexibility, intelligence and experience to play outside corner and also line up in the slot. Should contribute on special teams early in his career.

3. Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida. Also 20, Floyd is a strong, athletic defensive lineman who, at 6-foot-3 and 303 pounds, has position and scheme versatility. Good competitor and tough player against the run and pass. Not great sack numbers, but consistently disruptive in the pass rush, and the type of player who makes those around him better by making the offense concentrate so much on stopping him.

4. Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State. Born in Germany, Werner learned football while at a Connecticut prep school as an exchange student. Played just two prep years before signing with Florida State. Two-year starter at left end in FSU's base and sub packages who shows surprising natural instincts, good hand strength and athletic ability. Pretty impressive to see he had 13 sacks in the ACC in the 2012 season.

5. Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State. At 6-3 and 335, he still has the athleticism to line up at multiple positions on the line -- not just at the nose. Active and instinctive, and showed improvement from 2011. Very good player versus the run that needs to continue to improve his every-down consistency.

6. Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama. Low-mileage rusher (355 carries in three seasons with the Tide) who played behind two outstanding backs early in his career (Mark Ingram, Trent Richardson). Averaged 6.8 yards per rush in his college career behind an offensive line better than some NFL lines. Good receiving skills, and a willing blocker. He should be an every-down back in the NFL.

7. Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia. Began his college career at USC in 2009 and transferred closer to home after suffering a neck injury his true freshman year. Highly instinctive and productive college player, but at 6-3 and 241, could be a tough positional fit. Dominated certain games (Florida), disappeared in others (Alabama).

8. Keenan Allen, WR, Cal. Originally committed to Alabama out of HS, but decided to join his QB brother Zach to play together at Cal. Allen is a big (6-3, 210), savvy and highly competitive WR who has played the slot and outside. Lacks top speed, but is very natural and quick. In a WR class that appears to lack elite players, he may be the best.

9. Alec Ogletree, MLB, Georgia. Tremendously talented athlete at 6-3 and 232, and should be an every-down NFL inside 'backer or middle 'backer. Has the skill and ability to contribute immediately all defenses as well as special teams. Jumps off the tape and could have the most upside of any underclassman in the draft. But some off-the-field issues will need to be studied before giving him a final grade.

10. Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State. Three-year starter who was hampered this season by a knee injury that he played through. Good height-weight-speed prospect at 6-6 and 255 who right now is more receiver than blocker. I'm high on his ability to produce as an offensive tight end right now in the more wide-open NFL offenses. He's what we call an "F-type'' tight end, a receiver who can play off the line probably more productively than as a blocker right now.
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