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Old 04-19-2017, 10:00 AM  
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Grassley: Another Supreme Court vacancy likely this summer

The Dem's may realize they should have confirmed Gorsuch. Mitch McConnell will go down in history as a mastermind.

Sen. Chuck Grassley is predicting that President Trump will get to nominate a second justice to the Supreme Court as early as this summer.

The Iowa Republican, who chairs the Senate Judiciary Committee, said that there is a "rumored" upcoming retirement but declined to say which justice he expects to step down.

"I would expect a resignation this summer," Grassley said during Q-and-A, according to the Muscatine Journal.

Grassley added that Trump's next Supreme Court nominee would likely come off a list of roughly two dozen names he announced before taking over the White House.

Trump could be able to make multiple nominations, allowing him to shape the direction of the court for decades. As chairman of the Judiciary Committee, Grassley would be responsible for shepherding the nomination through the Senate.

Two justices, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Anthony Kennedy, are in their 80s, and Justice Stephen Breyer is 78.

The administration, according to The New York Times, is already looking at potential successors if Kennedy, the court's perennial swing vote, were to retire.

Grassley isn't the first Republican to signal that he thinks a second justice will retire in the new future.

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), who is also on the Judiciary Committee, has repeatedly predicted that he thinks Trump will get to make another nomination as soon as this summer.

"I think we're likely to see another vacancy potentially as soon as this summer. I think we'll see another vacancy either this summer or next summer," Cruz told the Chris Saucedo Show last week.

Grassley's comments come after Republicans changed the rules so they could confirm Neil Gorsuch, President Trump's Supreme Court nominee, to fill the vacancy created by Antonin Scalia's death.

The rule change allows future Supreme Court nominees to clear the Senate with only a simple majority.

Though Democrats will still be able to drag out a nomination by filibustering, Republicans will only need 51—instead of 60 votes—to break the stonewalling.

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-actio...ly-this-summer
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Old 04-20-2017, 07:33 PM   #76
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Old 04-20-2017, 07:43 PM   #77
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Of course it's my opinion, and apparently in opposition to yours. Now it sounds to me that you are saying compromise is not something we need.
I'm saying that the specific compromises you propose have already been proven not to be needed. That's not opinion. That's fact.

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It sounds like you are advocating a dictatorship because you think one side of an argument should not have a voice.
I'm not advocating anything remotely approaching a dictatorship, and you certainly know that, given what I've posted.

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Why be opposed to the inclusion of ideas or perspectives when assessing constitutional questions?
I made no claim of opposition to the inclusion of ideas or perspectives when assessing Constitutional questions.

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If your argument is that Justices, 9 of them, do not deliberate and debate each other, or haven't had fairness experience in their careers, I think that opinion might be an error.
That's clearly not my argument.
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Old 04-20-2017, 07:46 PM   #78
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No, that's not it.

What I describe is the problem with going against the inherent nature of interpreting language in favor of a "**** it, let's go half way"

I am not advocating splitting the difference, and that's an outcome. It would be biased to design the judicial process related to answering a constitutional question with an intended outcome on a particular issue. The wants and desires of the public must be met for governance to work. But, I am not talking about outcomes.

approach such as you're recommending.

There is no negotiating between

Interpret the document as it was written and intended to mean at the time it was written This method does not solve all constitutional problems

and

Interpret the document in light of the changes of the times.

This method does not solve all constitutional problems either. Since there is no one right way, it again makes my point about the value of considering alternatives.

The first does not allow for compromise with the second. Yes, they are in oppostion
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Old 04-20-2017, 08:37 PM   #79
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You didn't really address anything I wrote. You talked around it, instead.

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Comity may, or may not, be preferable, but it's not necessary. We survived the Bork, Ginsburg and Thomas experiences, and we survived the oppositional helplessness regarding FDR appointments, just to look to 2 examples.

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Having balance on the court doesn't insure good decisions, and often leads to horseshit decisions as the court attempts to twist decisions in order to bring in the disparate positions. On the other end, not having balance on the court doesn't prevent good decisions.

Both of the above have been proven by history.

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I am not advocating splitting the difference, and that's an outcome. It would be biased to design the judicial process related to answering a constitutional question with an intended outcome on a particular issue. The wants and desires of the public must be met for governance to work. But, I am not talking about outcomes.
Yes, you are advocating splitting the difference. That's a frequent requirement when you have that balance you crave. Again, history has shown that, too.

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Old 04-20-2017, 08:46 PM   #80
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Interpret the document as it was written and intended to mean at the time it was written
This method does not solve all constitutional problems
Yes, actually, it does. Any Constitutional issue can be solved via the Constitutional amendment process, if need be, and that is set out.

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Interpret the document in light of the changes of the times.
This method does not solve all constitutional problems either.
Again, yes it does. This method solves the problem by fundamentally tying the meaning/interpretation of the Constitution to suit the zeitgeist of the court, rather than by going through the Constitutional amendment process.

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Since there is no one right way, it again makes my point about the value of considering alternatives.
That's just a false statement.

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I'm taking this opportunity to note JPB and Garcia having a civil discourse between opposing viewpoints. Well done.
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