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Grassley: Another Supreme Court vacancy likely this summer

The Dem's may realize they should have confirmed Gorsuch. Mitch McConnell will go down in history as a mastermind.

Sen. Chuck Grassley is predicting that President Trump will get to nominate a second justice to the Supreme Court as early as this summer.

The Iowa Republican, who chairs the Senate Judiciary Committee, said that there is a "rumored" upcoming retirement but declined to say which justice he expects to step down.

"I would expect a resignation this summer," Grassley said during Q-and-A, according to the Muscatine Journal.

Grassley added that Trump's next Supreme Court nominee would likely come off a list of roughly two dozen names he announced before taking over the White House.

Trump could be able to make multiple nominations, allowing him to shape the direction of the court for decades. As chairman of the Judiciary Committee, Grassley would be responsible for shepherding the nomination through the Senate.

Two justices, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Anthony Kennedy, are in their 80s, and Justice Stephen Breyer is 78.

The administration, according to The New York Times, is already looking at potential successors if Kennedy, the court's perennial swing vote, were to retire.

Grassley isn't the first Republican to signal that he thinks a second justice will retire in the new future.

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), who is also on the Judiciary Committee, has repeatedly predicted that he thinks Trump will get to make another nomination as soon as this summer.

"I think we're likely to see another vacancy potentially as soon as this summer. I think we'll see another vacancy either this summer or next summer," Cruz told the Chris Saucedo Show last week.

Grassley's comments come after Republicans changed the rules so they could confirm Neil Gorsuch, President Trump's Supreme Court nominee, to fill the vacancy created by Antonin Scalia's death.

The rule change allows future Supreme Court nominees to clear the Senate with only a simple majority.

Though Democrats will still be able to drag out a nomination by filibustering, Republicans will only need 51—instead of 60 votes—to break the stonewalling.

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-actio...ly-this-summer
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Old 04-19-2017, 03:26 PM   #16
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Yep, a real example of someone in the gutter like his fellow guttersnipes of the far left, when they can't articulate against a conservative justice.
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Old 04-19-2017, 03:35 PM   #17
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this democrat-republican b******* saw senator Michael Bennett vote no on a judge from his own state.
Unreal isn't it? And for what? A futile gesture against an eminently qualified nominee to knowingly throw away any leverage they had against a future nominee who might actually be the boogey man they falsely painted Gorsuch to be?
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Old 04-19-2017, 03:45 PM   #18
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Unreal isn't it? And for what? A futile gesture against an eminently qualified nominee to knowingly throw away any leverage they had against a future nominee who might actually be the boogey man they falsely painted Gorsuch to be?
Yeah....If Michael Bennett came out and said he's voting no because he thinks Garland should get a vote first, that would at least be a fair point and I would accept that. He didn't do any of that. And now we are talking about recalling him.
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Old 04-19-2017, 04:06 PM   #19
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Yeah....If Michael Bennett came out and said he's voting no because he thinks Garland should get a vote first, that would at least be a fair point
No, it wouldn't. Why would you buy into that sort of nonsense?
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Old 04-19-2017, 04:31 PM   #20
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No, it wouldn't. Why would you buy into that sort of nonsense?
If we want to exhort the concept being fair, then we have to acknowledge that Garland did not receive fair treatment. He should have had a vote, regardless of the time left on the President's term of office, Garland was fairly selected within the process. No the Consitution does not denote a timeframe for the advice and consent of the Senate and it shouldn't have to denote timeframes, but being reasonable means our congress should have given Garland a vote. However, one could also argue that refusing to vote on Garland was indeed the Senate's advice and consent. God answers all prayers and sometimes the answer is no.
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If we want to exhort the concept being fair, then we have to acknowledge that Garland did not receive fair treatment.
No, we don't. Again, why would you buy into that sort of nonsense?

Garland received the very treatment that the left had repeatedly suggested it would give to nominees from the right, in similar circumstances.
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If we want to exhort the concept being fair, then we have to acknowledge that Garland did not receive fair treatment. He should have had a vote, regardless of the time left on the President's term of office, Garland was fairly selected within the process. No the Consitution does not denote a timeframe for the advice and consent of the Senate and it shouldn't have to denote timeframes, but being reasonable means our congress should have given Garland a vote. However, one could also argue that refusing to vote on Garland was indeed the Senate's advice and consent. God answers all prayers and sometimes the answer is no.
That's JPB's opinion that your position is "nonsense." You make a fair point. If the Rs did hold a hearing and voted "No" on Garland, then I think the Ds would have still done that regarding Gorsuch. I do consider the bold section to be a form of their advice and consent though. But at least a hearing and a "No" is a fair point, imo.
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Yeah....If Michael Bennett came out and said he's voting no because he thinks Garland should get a vote first, that would at least be a fair point and I would accept that. He didn't do any of that. And now we are talking about recalling him.
I can see where his constituents would feel that he at least owed you that. Again, the shame of it in my opinion is that it was such a pointless gesture that might have actually had an effect had they saved it for the right time.
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No, we don't. Again, why would you buy into that sort of nonsense?

Garland received the very treatment that the left had repeatedly suggested it would give to nominees from the right, in similar circumstances.
I would disagree on the morality of what you are suggesting. Would the D's have acted the way they did even if Garland did get a vote. Probably. did the D's exhort the threat of the R's behavior prior? Yes. You are right. My point is, let someone else be childish. I am certainly guilty of childish behavior, but that does not mean I need to keep being childish.What we lost in this process is a checks and balances mechanism in the Senate for selecting Justices for the SCotUS (filibuster). Now it's a pure majority. Personally, I do not like that. However, there are still a number of checks and balances in the process; President Elections, Senate Elections, Senate Vote, etc.
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I would disagree on the morality of what you are suggesting. Would the D's have acted the way they did even if Garland did get a vote. Probably. did the D's exhort the threat of the R's behavior prior? Yes. You are right. My point is, let someone else be childish.
It's not childish behavior, and there's no moral question here. It's an issue of strategy and comity, and the comity was gone, as the Democrat removal of the filibuster for the lower court appointments made clear.

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I am certainly guilty of childish behavior, but that does not mean I need to keep being childish.What we lost in this process is a checks and balances mechanism in the Senate for selecting Justices for the SCotUS (filibuster). Now it's a pure majority. Personally, I do not like that. However, there are still a number of checks and balances in the process; President Elections, Senate Elections, Senate Vote, etc.
The 60 vote rule has only been around since 1975. Cloture, which was an idea designed to get around the filibuster, only began in 1917, and it originally required a 2/3 vote. Prior to that, the filibuster reigned supreme in the senate.

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Using the filibuster to delay or block legislative action has a long history. The term filibuster -- from a Dutch word meaning "pirate" -- became popular in the 1850s, when it was applied to efforts to hold the Senate floor in order to prevent a vote on a bill.

In the early years of Congress, representatives as well as senators could filibuster. As the House of Representatives grew in numbers, however, revisions to the House rules limited debate. In the smaller Senate, unlimited debate continued on the grounds that any senator should have the right to speak as long as necessary on any issue.

In 1841, when the Democratic minority hoped to block a bank bill promoted by Kentucky Senator Henry Clay, he threatened to change Senate rules to allow the majority to close debate. Missouri Senator Thomas Hart Benton rebuked Clay for trying to stifle the Senate's right to unlimited debate.

Three quarters of a century later, in 1917, senators adopted a rule (Rule 22), at the urging of President Woodrow Wilson, that allowed the Senate to end a debate with a two-thirds majority vote, a device known as "cloture." The new Senate rule was first put to the test in 1919, when the Senate invoked cloture to end a filibuster against the Treaty of Versailles. Even with the new cloture rule, filibusters remained an effective means to block legislation, since a two-thirds vote is difficult to obtain. Over the next five decades, the Senate occasionally tried to invoke cloture, but usually failed to gain the necessary two-thirds vote. Filibusters were particularly useful to Southern senators who sought to block civil rights legislation, including anti-lynching legislation, until cloture was invoked after a 60 day filibuster against the Civil Right Act of 1964. In 1975, the Senate reduced the number of votes required for cloture from two-thirds to three-fifths, or 60 of the current one hundred senators.

Many Americans are familiar with the filibuster conducted by Jimmy Stewart, playing Senator Jefferson Smith in Frank Capra's film Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, but there have been some famous filibusters in the real-life Senate as well. During the 1930s, Senator Huey P. Long effectively used the filibuster against bills that he thought favored the rich over the poor. The Louisiana senator frustrated his colleagues while entertaining spectators with his recitations of Shakespeare and his reading of recipes for "pot-likkers." Long once held the Senate floor for 15 hours. The record for the longest individual speech goes to South Carolina's J. Strom Thurmond who filibustered for 24 hours and 18 minutes against the Civil Rights Act of 1957.
http://https://www.senate.gov/artand...er_Cloture.htm

In other words, because filibusters suck and get abused, the long term trend has been towards ditching them.
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It's not childish behavior, and there's no moral question here. It's an issue of strategy and comity, and the comity was gone, as the Democrat removal of the filibuster for the lower court appointments made clear.



The 60 vote rule has only been around since 1975. Cloture, which was an idea designed to get around the filibuster, only began in 1917, and it originally required a 2/3 vote. Prior to that, the filibuster reigned supreme in the senate.



http://https://www.senate.gov/artand...er_Cloture.htm

In other words, because filibusters suck and get abused, the long term trend has been towards ditching them.
Right on, comity may have been lost, but would you say that's a good thing?
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