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Old 04-12-2017, 08:32 AM  
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The decline of our cites. Sadly this sort of act is not unusual anymore

Our cities continue to decline into third world status. Once we used to read of tribal behaviors and warlords in far off exotic lands. Now its available here at home on any given day.




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Detroit police are poring over Facebook videos that show dozens of people cheering, laughing and videotaping a brawl between women that ended in a double stabbing.

The fight, which reportedly started over a parking space, happened Sunday evening at Rouge Park on the city’s northwest side, 6th Precinct Cmdr. Aric Tosqui said.

“It’s unfortunate that we as a society find entertainment in these kind of things,” Tosqui said. “In this case, people got hurt while everyone else stood around and filmed it instead of doing something.

“The case is under investigation, but one of the victims is uncooperative,” Tosqui said. “There were several videos posted to Facebook. We’ll be working with Facebook to gather all the videos so we can determine exactly what happened, and who was involved.”

Monday, police arrested two women, ages 21 and 22, in connection with the stabbings, Sgt. Adam Madera said.

One of the victims, a 30-year-old woman, was listed in stable condition in an area hospital. Police are working to identify the other victim, who reportedly drove away from the scene in a black Buick.

The police report was logged at 9 p.m. Sunday, although it’s unclear when the fight started.

One of the Facebook videos reviewed by The Detroit News begins with two women trading blows, as a crowd closes in on them; most of the onlookers filmed the fight amid the sound of cheers. Some stood on vehicles in an apparent attempt to get a better view of the fight.

The stabbings were not captured in the video reviewed by The News.
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Old 04-12-2017, 01:00 PM   #76
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I think a rough outline of a person we should admit would be

-They follow the legal process in all points
-They have never been in the country illegally
-They are proficient in English and meet a minimum educational standard, such as having a bachelor's degree or some sort of accreditation in a skilled trade.
-They pass a stringent background examination
-They are ineligible to ever be on public benefits
-They have secured employment prior to admission, and agree to leave if they are unable to maintain similar or better employment
-If the employer shows (by a process which needs to be greatly improved) that they are not able to place a qualified domestic worker in the position
-If the foreign worker is documented as being paid the same as a domestic worker would have been, if one had been available
-If foreign person maintains a completely clean criminal record

Perhaps more could be added. The process should be a breeze for desirable parties which will provide economic benefit, and closed to the rest.
Good list. Being white would be a plus, of course.
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Old 04-12-2017, 01:04 PM   #77
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Good list. Being white would be a plus, of course.
Before the The Hart–Celler Act there were per-nation quotas that were designed to preserve existing demographic balances in the United States and to reduce the number of unskilled workers who were immigrating. Naturally, this fell out of favor with the cultural shifts occurring in the 1960s.
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Old 04-12-2017, 01:06 PM   #78
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Old 04-12-2017, 01:11 PM   #79
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You characterized giving someone a plane ticket out of the country so they could self-deport as being on government assistance, when I obviously meant that they should be required to maintain employment and not simply live here collecting a check.
I correctly noted that the government giving someone a free airline ticket is the government giving him assistance. You're ignoring the issue here.

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I reject that premise completely. They are being allowed in because politicians want them to be allowed in, without regard for any of the details of their individual cases.
Your dislike of the reasons you perceive are being used to say such an influx is considered beneficial is irrelevant to the point that they are being considered beneficial.

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Yes, I know. I am intimately familiar with this process.
Apparently not, going by your arguments

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You have still yet to explain why, under no circumstances, can a person who is not a US citizen benefit the United States by living and working here.
That' likely because I never made such a claim.

Also, I'll ask again

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We're allowing more than a million people a year into the country, granting them permanent residency. How many do you consider an acceptable number, and how are you going to handle the issues such as family members?
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Old 04-12-2017, 01:52 PM   #80
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I correctly noted that the government giving someone a free airline ticket is the government giving him assistance. You're ignoring the issue here.
You're ignoring the obvious intent of my comment, which was that they should be required to maintain employment and not live here in perpetuity collecting benefits.

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Your dislike of the reasons you perceive are being used to say such an influx is considered beneficial is irrelevant to the point that they are being considered beneficial.
Is that English?

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Apparently not, going by your arguments
I simply pointed out that you misunderstood possibly the most basic fact in the entire discussion, that obtaining a visa is different than obtaining residency.



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We're allowing more than a million people a year into the country, granting them permanent residency. How many do you consider an acceptable number, and how are you going to handle the issues such as family members?
Again, you seriously misunderstand the subject on which you are pontificating.

A person immigrates when they enter the country for the purposes settling in the United States. People who are being granted a permanent status are already in the country and immigrated at some point in the past. Your conflation of the two shows a lack of basic understanding of the immigration system in whole and in part.

I have already explained my position in detail. If a person met requirements similar to the list I provided, I support their being admitted on a conditional status. There is no set acceptable number. The number of people who met those requirements would be the number to be considered, and the number to be accepted would be discretionary. That number obviously would be a fraction of the number who are immigrating today.

So, I'll ask again. Why is the person I described in post #51 not beneficial to the United States?

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Old 04-12-2017, 02:03 PM   #81
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Before the The Hart–Celler Act there were per-nation quotas that were designed to preserve existing demographic balances in the United States and to reduce the number of unskilled workers who were immigrating. Naturally, this fell out of favor with the cultural shifts occurring in the 1960s.
Lie!

National origins never "fell out of favor". It was lied about. Ted Kennedy flatly proclaimed it wouldn't upset our ethnic balance.


Americans never changed their minds as you infer here, they were deceived and then in 1986 bald-faced lied to. Zero enforcement. Polls have ALWAYS shown since 1965 Americans didn't want more immigration.
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Before the The Hart–Celler Act there were per-nation quotas that were designed to preserve existing demographic balances in the United States and to reduce the number of unskilled workers who were immigrating. Naturally, this fell out of favor with the cultural shifts occurring in the 1960s.
We definitely should have stuck with that practice.
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Lie!

National origins never "fell out of favor". It was lied about. Ted Kennedy flatly proclaimed it wouldn't upset our ethnic balance.


Americans never changed their minds as you infer here, they were deceived and then in 1986 bald-faced lied to. Zero enforcement. Polls have ALWAYS shown since 1965 Americans didn't want more immigration.
Fine; fell out of favor in Washington in the 1960s, if you prefer.
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Old 04-12-2017, 02:42 PM   #84
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As long as they keep that shit in the big Liberal cities, no one will really care to be honest.

Let them implode and drive out all jobs, businesses, etc. There are plenty of Red states that would love to have more companies to provide jobs to folks.
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Old 04-12-2017, 02:46 PM   #85
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You're ignoring the obvious intent of my comment, which was that they should be required to maintain employment and not live here in perpetuity collecting benefits.
I'm not ignoring the obvious intent of your comment. I'm pointing out that you're still going to have instances of foreigners accessing the government tit.
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Old 04-12-2017, 02:48 PM   #86
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Is that English?
Yes. And, since you have to ask:

Who are you to demand that foreigners speak English when you can't even grasp the language?
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I simply pointed out that you misunderstood possibly the most basic fact in the entire discussion, that obtaining a visa is different than obtaining residency.
Except that you were making an incorrect assertion, and I didn't misunderstand, at all. I pulled up items that showed various groups who'd be looking to relocate, and asked you how you'd deal with that problem.

As with so many other issues here, you punted on the question.
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Again, you seriously misunderstand the subject on which you are pontificating.

A person immigrates when they enter the country for the purposes settling in the United States. People who are being granted a permanent status are already in the country and immigrated at some point in the past. Your conflation of the two shows a lack of basic understanding of the immigration system in whole and in part.
You've made this incorrect argument more than once now. My pointing out the numbers of people who were granted status is to point out the number of people granted status. Over a million people per year are being granted status.

You're deliberately trying to ignore the obvious.

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I have already explained my position in detail. If a person met requirements similar to the list I provided, I support their being admitted on a conditional status. There is no set acceptable number. The number of people who met those requirements would be the number to be considered, and the number to be accepted would be discretionary. That number obviously would be a fraction of the number who are immigrating today.

So, I'll ask again. Why is the person I described in post #51 not beneficial to the United States?
Without acknowledging a number, you're just talking out of your ass, since the biggest differences in our positions lie in immigration numbers and the specifics of the requirements of those seeking to enter.

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As long as they keep that shit in the big Liberal cities, no one will really care to be honest.

Let them implode and drive out all jobs, businesses, etc. There are plenty of Red states that would love to have more companies to provide jobs to folks.
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