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Old 04-05-2017, 10:55 AM  
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*** Official 2017 Royals Repository ***

Chiefsplanet’s (Proposed) 2017 Season Title: One Last Ride

2011 Prelude:

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The 2017 season undoubtably begins in shadow of Yordano Ventura’s tragic death in the offseason. David Glass again bucked expectation and fan vitriol to go all in on his budget, and the core, despite the heartstring tugging trades of Davis and Dyson, remains primed for another push to the promised land. Will the Royals make another deep run into October? Or will they conduct the largest deadline sell off in Major League history?

Even with the expectations, predictions and hype spanning back from 2011 - the journey this team embarked on since 2013 was sweeter than anything any of us could have imagined. Even if this team goes on a 2004 styled losing binge this year, all is not lost. As this will push the Royals to conduct a sell off for minor league talent that will reignite the incredible optimism that permeated through this place in 2011. At the end of the day, this team actually did it, they somehow found a way to defy all of the odds that the MLB set against them to take the crown.
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2017's Burning Questions

1. What is the threshold between being “buyers” and “sellers” at the deadline?

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2. Can Gordo and Moose bounce back to 2015 levels?

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3. Can Ned Yost manage a bullpen?

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4. Will the Royals find a boost from an unexpected X-Factor to lift them to contention?

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5. Can Jorge Soler and Brandon Moss be productive contributors in Kauffman’s dimensions?

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Bonus Question - Is Raul Mondesi truly ready to be an everyday player?

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We’re all in again, folks. Buckle in and enjoy the ride.

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Old 04-13-2017, 09:29 AM   #121
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Ain't getting "3-4 top prospects" for these guys.
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Old 04-13-2017, 10:32 AM   #122
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Ain't getting "3-4 top prospects" for these guys.

Well, depends on how "top" you're talking, and whether you're hammering your trade return by insisting on guys who are close to MLB.

If you just take the best talent you can get for them, I could see Hosmer, Moustakas, and Cain netting something around 3-4 guys in the top 40-75 range.

Someone like Kennedy or Hammel or Vargas may also be able to be included as a secondary piece that helps you get a little more back (see the A's-Cubs trade, with Hammel as a rider for Lester).

But you're not getting Yoan Moncada or Giolito or someone like that.

Still, 3-4 top 100 guys would inject a lot of life into the Royals' system, which has a lot of young guys with upside.

Notes on that:
Sandwich pick Foster Griffin was bad the past two years but has been really good through two starts this season. Kind of similar to the Cody Reed breakout in 2015.

Zach Lovvorn is a small RHP, but also has turned in two excellent starts at NwA with good K numbers.

Junis was good at Omaha before getting the call and may be ready to slide in as a cheap back-end starter.

Ashe Russell is still he Invisible Man.

Khalil Lee is drawing rave reviews and seems to be a rare prospect for KC in that he is the toolsy, athletic type they like, but couples those tools with good plate discipline.

Meibrys Viloria is a C who has a chance to jump into top 100 lists if he hits like he has the past two years.




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Old 04-13-2017, 10:37 AM   #123
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I updated the OP with my burning questions for 2017. I spoiler tagged my analysis in an attempt to reduce the clutter. Apologies for the delay, I took a trip back to Kansas this weekend and have been slammed at work for the last two weeks.
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Old 04-13-2017, 02:55 PM   #124
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This is like 2004-2006 Royals. I hope these guys start hitting soon.
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Old 04-13-2017, 03:00 PM   #125
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Well, depends on how "top" you're talking, and whether you're hammering your trade return by insisting on guys who are close to MLB.

If you just take the best talent you can get for them, I could see Hosmer, Moustakas, and Cain netting something around 3-4 guys in the top 40-75 range.

Someone like Kennedy or Hammel or Vargas may also be able to be included as a secondary piece that helps you get a little more back (see the A's-Cubs trade, with Hammel as a rider for Lester).

But you're not getting Yoan Moncada or Giolito or someone like that.

Still, 3-4 top 100 guys would inject a lot of life into the Royals' system, which has a lot of young guys with upside.

Notes on that:
Sandwich pick Foster Griffin was bad the past two years but has been really good through two starts this season. Kind of similar to the Cody Reed breakout in 2015.

Zach Lovvorn is a small RHP, but also has turned in two excellent starts at NwA with good K numbers.

Junis was good at Omaha before getting the call and may be ready to slide in as a cheap back-end starter.

Ashe Russell is still he Invisible Man.

Khalil Lee is drawing rave reviews and seems to be a rare prospect for KC in that he is the toolsy, athletic type they like, but couples those tools with good plate discipline.

Meibrys Viloria is a C who has a chance to jump into top 100 lists if he hits like he has the past two years.




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Old 04-13-2017, 04:38 PM   #126
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They need to start focusing on putting the ball in play again. The amount of strike outs they have is completely incompatible with the poor plate discipline and lack of power.

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Old 04-13-2017, 04:44 PM   #127
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Old 04-13-2017, 08:00 PM   #128
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Old 04-13-2017, 09:19 PM   #129
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Soooo. Is Vargas our ace then?
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Well, it's hardly as if Duffy has pitched poorly, but Vargas has been great. He's definitely our 2 so far.
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Old 04-13-2017, 11:21 PM   #131
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This start made me remember just how solid Vargas was during the first 3/4ths of the 2014 season. It gave me a flashback to a 2014 start he had against the A's. He went the distance and needed less than 100 pitches to do it. My hometown had a blackout that night, and listening to him seal the shutout was magical.

I think it was around the time the Sung Woo experience took KC by storm.

It was pretty incredible that we lost Shields, Vargas got injured, and Ventura pitched like Kyle Davies in the first half of 2015.. yet we somehow kicked ass and took names regardless.
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Old 04-14-2017, 10:44 AM   #132
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Last night Josh Staumont bounced back in a huge way after a rough first start in AAA-Omaha.

Final line for Staumont last night:
6IP 0R 1H 12K 2BB

Guy can bring it. If he gets his command in check he will be a force.

Also, Strahm continued to stabilize at AAA last night:
2IP 0R 0H 3K 0BB

I bet it's not more than a week before he is back in KC.
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Old 04-14-2017, 11:49 AM   #133
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I really was hoping the Houston series was a sign of life/the team waking up. That has turned sour in a hurry.

Offense has to do more. If Cain, Hosmer and Gordon don't produce, this offense probably isn't good enough.

They're pressing. Still a lot of season left, but they need to turn it pretty damn quick or they're going to get buried in the standings.


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Old 04-14-2017, 11:54 AM   #134
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Last night Josh Staumont bounced back in a huge way after a rough first start in AAA-Omaha.

Final line for Staumont last night:
6IP 0R 1H 12K 2BB

Guy can bring it. If he gets his command in check he will be a force.

Also, Strahm continued to stabilize at AAA last night:
2IP 0R 0H 3K 0BB

I bet it's not more than a week before he is back in KC.
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Old 04-14-2017, 12:51 PM   #135
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Hell, at this point I'd settle for Moss giving us Omar Infante numbers at the plate.

.220 is way freakin better than .043. Christ.


He was also like 9/100 at the end of last season.



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