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Old 04-05-2017, 10:55 AM  
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Chiefsplanet’s (Proposed) 2017 Season Title: One Last Ride

2011 Prelude:

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The 2017 season undoubtably begins in shadow of Yordano Ventura’s tragic death in the offseason. David Glass again bucked expectation and fan vitriol to go all in on his budget, and the core, despite the heartstring tugging trades of Davis and Dyson, remains primed for another push to the promised land. Will the Royals make another deep run into October? Or will they conduct the largest deadline sell off in Major League history?

Even with the expectations, predictions and hype spanning back from 2011 - the journey this team embarked on since 2013 was sweeter than anything any of us could have imagined. Even if this team goes on a 2004 styled losing binge this year, all is not lost. As this will push the Royals to conduct a sell off for minor league talent that will reignite the incredible optimism that permeated through this place in 2011. At the end of the day, this team actually did it, they somehow found a way to defy all of the odds that the MLB set against them to take the crown.
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2017's Burning Questions

1. What is the threshold between being “buyers” and “sellers” at the deadline?

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2. Can Gordo and Moose bounce back to 2015 levels?

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3. Can Ned Yost manage a bullpen?

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4. Will the Royals find a boost from an unexpected X-Factor to lift them to contention?

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5. Can Jorge Soler and Brandon Moss be productive contributors in Kauffman’s dimensions?

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Bonus Question - Is Raul Mondesi truly ready to be an everyday player?

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We’re all in again, folks. Buckle in and enjoy the ride.

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Old 04-05-2017, 07:51 PM   #16
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Old 04-05-2017, 07:55 PM   #17
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I remember one CP post from that time:

"There goes my boner for the Royals"
-someone on CP after the Royals' devastating 0-2 start of 2014.

If only that boner lived to see the rest of that season, man.
For kicks, I found the Royals-Twins 2014 thread after Wade Davis' error cost us the game. Being swept by the Twins dropped us to 4-7, and Chiefsplanet was a bit salty.


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Wade Davis was the centerpiece of the James Shields trade. GMDM uggh...
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**** you, Wade. And mother**** you, DM, for simply being DM. Just because.

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First of all, I know I'm overreacting, and you all can get the **** over it. I don't get how one ****ing team can be so bad for so long. I mean a 28 year playoff drought going on 29 years... It's amazing this team still has fans. ****, I have been a lifelong fan and the last time they were in the playoffs, I was an infant. **** this team. MLB should intervene for the good of the game.
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Like I said earlier....the race is on to see which ends first:

The month of April
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Even the experts said our 2014 bullpen was in major trouble:

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Here's the book on the Royals: if you aren't up early then just hang on and keep the game in reach till the 7th and 8th, and be ready to take on that soft, juicy bullpen.
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@JeffPassan: The Royals' bullpen throws about as well from 10 feet as it does from 60 feet, 6 inches.

Then check out what this dumbass said three months later.

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I'm all for going all in behind Marty. Let's do what we can to put a fire under Glass.
This overall thread makes for some pretty cathartic reading. Our post-World Series meltdowns look like Fisher Price compared to this one. It's a long season, this year could still go in so many ways.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=282971
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Old 04-05-2017, 09:48 PM   #18
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-The bullpen rallies and doesn't remind us of how spoiled we've been
-Soler comes back from injury and proves his potential
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Old 04-05-2017, 10:33 PM   #19
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For kicks, I found the Royals-Twins 2014 thread after Wade Davis' error cost us the game. Being swept by the Twins dropped us to 4-7, and Chiefsplanet was a bit salty.














Even the experts said our 2014 bullpen was in major trouble:





Then check out with this dumbass said three months later.



This overall thread makes for some pretty cathartic reading. Our post-World Series meltdowns look like Fisher Price compared to this one. It's a long season, this year could still go in so many ways.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=282971
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Old 04-05-2017, 11:37 PM   #20
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Only 2 games in and many are giving up. It's only 1 quarter through a football game and we fumbled twice. But this team has the ability to win.
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Old 04-06-2017, 01:20 AM   #21
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Only 2 games in and many are giving up. It's only 1 quarter through a football game and we fumbled twice. But this team has the ability to win.
Let's put it this way, if the start of this Royals season is a Chiefs game, game 1/162 being the start of a 60 minute game, we are about 44.4 seconds into the football game. Let's say the Chiefs, in this scenario, down the kick in the endzone for a touchback and are starting on the 25 yard line with 60 minutes of the game left to play. The Royals losing the first two games of the season is the equivalent of Alex Smith handing the ball off to Ware and him getting tackled for a ~0.926 yard loss.

Right now at this very point of the Royals season, it's 2nd and 11 at our own 24 yard line.

Now if the Royals were to win tomorrow, it would **** this entire model up as it is based under the assumption that reaching the endzone is a perfect 162-0 season and them being winless right now simplifies this scenario. But for right now at this exact second, it's all I got. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Old 04-06-2017, 08:00 AM   #23
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Old 04-06-2017, 03:27 PM   #27
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I've decided to spoiler tag the 2011 prelude after the Royals first win this season.

I will have the five burning questions and analysis uploaded to the OP by Friday. Here's a sneak peak.

2017's Burning Questions

1. What is the threshold between being “buyers” or “sellers” at the deadline?
(This is an important question. The worst move if we're down 4-5 games again would be holding, imho).

2. Can Gordo and Moose bounce back to 2015 form?

3. Can Ned Yost manage a bullpen?

4. Will the Royals find a boost from an unexpected X-Factor to lift them to contention?

2014 X factors - Wade Davis, Kelvin Herrera, Danny Duffy and "Ace" Ventura
2015 X factors - Chris Young, Ryan Madson, Kendrys "Silver Slugger" Morales

5. Can Jorge Soler and Brandon Moss be productive contributors in Kauffman’s dimensions?

Bonus Question - Is Raul Mondesi truly ready to be an everyday player?
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I've decided to spoiler tag the 2011 prelude after the Royals first win this season.

I will have the five burning questions and analysis uploaded to the OP by Friday. Here's a sneak peak.

2017's Burning Questions

1. What is the threshold between being “buyers” and “sellers” at the deadline?
(This is AN important question. The worst move if we're down 4-5 games again would be holding, imho).

2. Can Gordo and Moose bounce back to 2015 levels?

3. Can Ned Yost manage a bullpen?

4. Will the Royals find a boost from an unexpected X-Factor to lift them to contention?

2014 X factors - Wade Davis, Kelvin Herrera, "Ace" Ventura and Brandon Finnegan.
2015 X factors - Chris Young, Ryan Madson, Kendrys "Silver Slugger" Morales

5. Can Jorge Soler and Brandon Moss be productive contributors in Kauffman’s dimensions?

Bonus Question - Is Raul Mondesi truly ready to be an everyday player?
1. If we're more than 10 games out, you have to sell. I'd even say 7-8 games. As for buyers, that's a tough one, because there isn't a whole lot on the farm to give up to get anyone.

2. Moose can, but Gordon's too old to do much anymore, IMO. He might have a good stretch or two in him, but his best years are over.

3. No.

4. That better be a bullpen guy. Otherwise, it won't matter. Not seeing it at this point.

5. Better question. Can either of them not strike out at a ridiculous rate?

BQ. I haven't seen enough of him because of all the day games and my work schedule, but sure? The Royals have always been weak at second, other than the half-season of Zobrist.
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1. If we're more than 10 games out, you have to sell. I'd even say 7-8 games. As for buyers, that's a tough one, because there isn't a whole lot on the farm to give up to get anyone.

2. Moose can, but Gordon's too old to do much anymore, IMO. He might have a good stretch or two in him, but his best years are over.

3. No.

4. That better be a bullpen guy. Otherwise, it won't matter. Not seeing it at this point.

5. Better question. Can either of them not strike out at a ridiculous rate?

BQ. I haven't seen enough of him because of all the day games and my work schedule, but sure? The Royals have always been weak at second, other than the half-season of Zobrist.
I'm afraid the Gordon contract was our Kobe moment that is going to haunt us for a while.

I love Gordo - and he will forever be a royal legend for the game 1 bomb off Familia....but smart franchises know when to hold 'em, and when to fold 'em.
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If there is one thing we all know about these guys, especially the hitters, it's that every single ****ing one of them is streaky as ****.

The pitching hopefully warms up and guys settle into their roles. However, this looks to be an average bullpen at best. Starting pitching is going to have to be better than years past.
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